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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/12] writeback: only allow one inflight and pending full flush
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 10:11:20 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a978a692-2e7d-a76f-9653-9df1b63f65de@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171003160610.GA32309@bombadil.infradead.org>

On 10/03/2017 10:06 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 02:17:32AM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 09/28/2017 11:44 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Andrew Morton
>>> <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> test_and_set_bit()?
>>>
>>> If there aren't any atomicity concerns (either because of higher-level
>>> locking, or because racing and having two people set the bit is fine),
>>> it can be better to do them separately if the test_bit() is the common
>>> case and you can avoid dirtying a cacheline that way.
>>>
>>> But yeah, if that is the case, it might be worth documenting, because
>>> test_and_set_bit() is the more obviously appropriate "there can be
>>> only one" model.
>>
>> It is documented though, but maybe not well enough...
>>
>> I've actually had to document/explain it enough times now, that it
>> might be worth making a general construct. Though it has to be
>> used carefully, so perhaps it's better contained as separate use
>> cases.
> 
> test_and_test_and_set_bit()?  It's an unusual name, so when either
> reading it or writing it, people are going to say "something unusual
> here", rather than "That Jens Axboe is such a n00b, he doesn't know how
> to use test_and_set_bit()".  There are a few references out on the web
> to test-and-test-and-set already, so it's not entirely unique to Linux.
> 
> Plus, some architectures might be able to optimise that, particularly
> those which are ll/sc based.  It might be exactly the same as their
> test_and_set().

I like that suggestion, but would suggest we make it
test_then_test_and_set_bit() since the 'then' naming would work for
having similar test_then_clear_bit() and not clash with
test_and_set_bit().

And yes, some archs would be able to optimize this nicely.

All worth it if I never have to explain it or add special comments
about it again :-)

-- 
Jens Axboe

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-03 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-27 20:13 [PATCH 0/12 v3] Writeback improvements Jens Axboe
2017-09-27 20:13 ` [PATCH 01/12] buffer: have alloc_page_buffers() use __GFP_NOFAIL Jens Axboe
2017-09-28 14:08   ` Nikolay Borisov
2017-10-02 15:02   ` Jan Kara
2017-09-27 20:13 ` [PATCH 02/12] buffer: grow_dev_page() should use __GFP_NOFAIL for all cases Jens Axboe
2017-09-28 14:11   ` Nikolay Borisov
2017-09-28 18:12     ` Jens Axboe
2017-10-03 12:10   ` Jan Kara
2017-10-03 12:25     ` Jan Kara
2017-10-03 14:36       ` Jens Axboe
2017-10-03 15:52         ` Jan Kara
2017-09-27 20:13 ` [PATCH 03/12] buffer: eliminate the need to call free_more_memory() in __getblk_slow() Jens Axboe
2017-09-28 14:12   ` Nikolay Borisov
2017-10-03 12:22   ` Jan Kara
2017-09-27 20:13 ` [PATCH 04/12] fs: kill 'nr_pages' argument from wakeup_flusher_threads() Jens Axboe
2017-09-27 20:13 ` [PATCH 05/12] writeback: switch wakeup_flusher_threads() to cyclic writeback Jens Axboe
2017-10-03 12:43   ` Jan Kara
2017-09-27 20:13 ` [PATCH 06/12] writeback: provide a wakeup_flusher_threads_bdi() Jens Axboe
2017-09-27 20:13 ` [PATCH 07/12] writeback: pass in '0' for nr_pages writeback in laptop mode Jens Axboe
2017-09-27 20:13 ` [PATCH 08/12] writeback: make wb_start_writeback() static Jens Axboe
2017-09-27 20:13 ` [PATCH 09/12] writeback: move nr_pages == 0 logic to one location Jens Axboe
2017-09-27 20:13 ` [PATCH 10/12] writeback: only allow one inflight and pending full flush Jens Axboe
2017-09-28 21:41   ` Andrew Morton
2017-09-28 21:44     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-29  0:17       ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-29  5:21         ` Amir Goldstein
2017-10-03 16:06         ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-10-03 16:11           ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2017-10-03 17:03             ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-09-29  0:15     ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-27 20:13 ` [PATCH 11/12] writeback: make sync_inodes_sb() use range cyclic writeback Jens Axboe
2017-09-27 20:13 ` [PATCH 12/12] writeback: kill off ->range_cycle option Jens Axboe
2017-09-27 20:22   ` Jens Axboe
2017-09-28 13:19 ` [PATCH 0/12 v3] Writeback improvements John Stoffel
2017-09-28 13:39   ` Jens Axboe

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