From: Giovanni Cabiddu <giovanni.cabiddu@intel.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Simon Richter <Simon.Richter@hogyros.de>,
<linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
<linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
<ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fscrypt: don't use hardware offload Crypto API drivers
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2025 12:10:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aEwHPjxw4K6t5mgf@gcabiddu-mobl.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250613012357.GA3603104@google.com>
On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 01:23:57AM +0000, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 03:57:43PM +0000, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 09:50:26AM +0100, Giovanni Cabiddu wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 11:25:21PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > > FWIW, here's what happens if you try to use the Intel QAT driver with dm-crypt:
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/CACsaVZ+mt3CfdXV0_yJh7d50tRcGcRZ12j3n6-hoX2cz3+njsg@mail.gmail.com/
> > >
> > > /s/happens/happened/
> > >
> > > ... and it got fixed
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220506082327.21605-1-giovanni.cabiddu@intel.com/
> >
> > But it reached users in the first place, including stable kernels. And
> > apparently the issues were going on for years and were known to the authors of
> > the driver
> > (https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/91fe9f87-54d7-4140-4d1a-eac8e2081a7c@gmail.com/).
> >
> > We simply don't have issues like this with the AES-NI or VAES XTS code.
> >
> > And separately, QAT was reported to be much slower than AES-NI for synchronous use
> > (https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/0171515-7267-624-5a22-238af829698f@redhat.com/)
> >
> > Later, I added VAES accelerated AES-XTS code which is over twice as fast as
> > AES-NI on the latest Intel CPUs, so that likely widened the gap even more.
> >
> > Yet, the QAT driver registers its "xts(aes)" implementation with priority 4001,
> > compared to priority 800 for the VAES accelerated one. So the QAT one is the
> > one that will be used by fscrypt!
> >
> > That seems like a major issue even just from a performance perspective.
> >
> > I expect this patch will significantly improve fscrypt performance on Intel
> > servers that have QAT.
>
> I was curious, so I actually ran a benchmark on an Intel Emerald Rapids server.
> Specifically, I used a kernel module that repeatedly en/decrypted 4096-byte
> messages with AES-XTS using crypto_skcipher_en/decrypt(). That's basically what
> fscrypt's file contents encryption does, but here I just measured the raw crypto
> performance. I tested both xts-aes-vaes-avx512 and qat_aes_xts. For both, the
> difference between encryption and decryption was within the margin of error, so
> I'll give just one number for each.
>
> Results:
>
> xts-aes-vaes-avx512: 16171 MB/s
> qat_aes_xts: 289 MB/s
>
> So, QAT is 55 times slower than the VAES-optimized software code!
>
> It's even slower than the generic C code:
>
> xts(ecb(aes-generic)): 305 MB/s
>
> Now, it could be argued that this is user error -- I "should" have created lots
> of asynchronous crypto requests for 4K blocks, submitted them all at once, and
> waited for them to complete. Thus allowing parallel processing by QAT.
>
> But, that's simply not what fscrypt does. And even if it did, it could only
> plausibly help for large bios. Short bios, for which latency is really
> important, would continue to be massively regressed by using QAT for them.
>
> Even for large bios, it would have to get over 55 times faster to be worth it,
> which seems (very?) tenuous.
>
> Also, as is known from dm-crypt which does do async processing, the code that's
> needed to do it is quite complex and error-prone.
>
> In any case, async processing would be a theoretical future improvement. It's
> simply not what fscrypt does today, or has ever done.
>
> I also found that, even though I built the QAT driver as a loadable module, it
> was loaded automatically on the system and prioritized itself over the VAES-
> accelerated AES-XTS. Thus, it would be what fscrypt uses on Intel servers where
> the QAT driver is enabled in kconfig, even just as 'm'.
I just sent a patch to lower the priority of the skcipher (and aead)
algorithms in the QAT driver. This should allow xts-aes-vaes-avx512 to be
selected by default.
As for the module loading behaviour: loadable modules are automatically
loaded at startup if hardware that matches the device IDs they support
is found.
Regards,
--
Giovanni
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-13 11:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-11 20:58 Eric Biggers
2025-06-12 0:21 ` Simon Richter
2025-06-12 0:59 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-12 6:25 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-12 8:50 ` Giovanni Cabiddu
2025-06-12 15:57 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-13 1:23 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-13 11:10 ` Giovanni Cabiddu [this message]
2025-06-25 6:32 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-25 12:44 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-06-25 18:38 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-25 16:29 ` Maxime MERE
2025-06-25 19:17 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-13 9:01 ` Maxime MERE
2025-06-13 14:42 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-25 16:29 ` Maxime MERE
2025-06-25 18:57 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-26 2:36 ` Eric Biggers
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