From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
To: luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>
Cc: Marcel Ziswiler <marcel.ziswiler@codethink.co.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Vineeth Pillai <vineeth@bitbyteword.org>
Subject: Re: SCHED_DEADLINE tasks missing their deadline with SCHED_FLAG_RECLAIM jobs in the mix (using GRUB)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 17:28:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFV-HEwOTq0a37ax@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250620161606.2ff81fb1@nowhere>
On 20/06/25 16:16, luca abeni wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 11:37:45 +0200
> luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> wrote:
> [...]
> > > Luca, Vineeth (for the recent introduction of max_bw), maybe we
> > > could take a step back and re-check (and maybe and document better
> > > :) what each variable is meant to do and how it gets updated?
> >
> > I am not sure about the funny values initially assigned to these
> > variables, but I can surely provide some documentation about what
> > these variables represent... I am going to look at this and I'll send
> > some comments or patches.
>
> So, I had a look tying to to remember the situation... This is my
> current understanding:
> - the max_bw field should be just the maximum amount of CPU bandwidth we
> want to use with reclaiming... It is rt_runtime_us / rt_period_us; I
> guess it is cached in this field just to avoid computing it every
> time.
> So, max_bw should be updated only when
> /proc/sys/kernel/sched_rt_{runtime,period}_us are written
> - the extra_bw field represents an additional amount of CPU bandwidth
> we can reclaim on each core (the original m-GRUB algorithm just
> reclaimed Uinact, the utilization of inactive tasks).
> It is initialized to Umax when no SCHED_DEADLINE tasks exist and
Is Umax == max_bw from above?
> should be decreased by Ui when a task with utilization Ui becomes
> SCHED_DEADLINE (and increased by Ui when the SCHED_DEADLINE task
> terminates or changes scheduling policy). Since this value is
> per_core, Ui is divided by the number of cores in the root domain...
> From what you write, I guess extra_bw is not correctly
> initialized/updated when a new root domain is created?
It looks like so yeah. After boot and when domains are dinamically
created. But, I am still not 100%, I only see weird numbers that I
struggle to relate with what you say above. :)
> All this information is probably not properly documented... Should I
> improve the description in Documentation/scheduler/sched-deadline.rst
> or do you prefer some comments in kernel/sched/deadline.c? (or .h?)
I think ideally both. sched-deadline.rst should probably contain the
whole picture with more information and .c/.h the condendensed version.
Thanks!
Juri
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-20 15:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-28 18:04 Marcel Ziswiler
2025-05-02 13:55 ` Juri Lelli
2025-05-02 14:10 ` luca abeni
2025-05-03 13:14 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-05-05 15:53 ` luca abeni
2025-05-03 11:14 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-05-07 20:25 ` luca abeni
2025-05-19 13:32 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-05-20 16:09 ` luca abeni
2025-05-21 9:59 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-05-23 19:46 ` luca abeni
2025-05-25 19:29 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-05-29 9:39 ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-02 14:59 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-06-17 12:21 ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-18 11:24 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-06-20 9:29 ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-20 9:37 ` luca abeni
2025-06-20 9:58 ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-20 14:16 ` luca abeni
2025-06-20 15:28 ` Juri Lelli [this message]
2025-06-20 16:52 ` luca abeni
2025-06-24 7:49 ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-24 12:59 ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-24 15:00 ` luca abeni
2025-06-25 9:30 ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-25 10:11 ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-25 12:50 ` luca abeni
2025-06-26 10:59 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-06-26 11:45 ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-25 15:55 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-06-24 13:36 ` luca abeni
2025-05-30 9:21 ` luca abeni
2025-06-03 11:18 ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-06-06 13:16 ` luca abeni
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