From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 02/55] Documentation: media: camera-sensor: Mention v4l2_devm_sensor_clk_get() for obtaining the clock
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 10:49:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFkxNB0EPFzlhOl5@kekkonen.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250619214705.GR22102@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>
Hi Mehdi, Laurent,
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 12:47:05AM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Mehdi,
>
> Thank you for the patch.
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 07:58:55PM +0200, Mehdi Djait wrote:
> > Add the new v4l2 helper devm_v4l2_sensor_clk_get() to Documentation. the
> > helper works on both DT- and ACPI-based platforms to retrieve a
> > reference to the clock producer from firmware.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Mehdi Djait <mehdi.djait@linux.intel.com>
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/driver-api/media/camera-sensor.rst b/Documentation/driver-api/media/camera-sensor.rst
> > index c290833165e6..c82c018a5f40 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/driver-api/media/camera-sensor.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/driver-api/media/camera-sensor.rst
> > @@ -32,7 +32,8 @@ user.
> > ACPI
> > ~~~~
> >
> > -Read the ``clock-frequency`` _DSD property to denote the frequency. The driver
> > +Use ``devm_v4l2_sensor_clk_get()`` to get the clock. The function will read the
> > +``clock-frequency`` _DSD property to denote the frequency. The driver
> > can rely on this frequency being used.
>
> This isn't specific to ACPI anymore. I think the documentation should be
> refactored further. Here's a proposal.
>
>
> Handling clocks
> ---------------
>
> Camera sensors have an internal clock tree including a PLL and a number of
> divisors. The clock tree is generally configured by the driver based on a few
> input parameters that are specific to the hardware: the external clock frequency
> and the link frequency. The two parameters generally are specified by system
> firmware. **No other frequencies should be used in any circumstances.**
>
> The reason why the clock frequencies are so important is that the system is
> usually designed to use specific external clock and link frequencies to ensure
> electro-magnetic compatibility. Using other frequencies may cause harmful
> effects elsewhere. Therefore only the pre-determined frequencies are
> configurable by the user.
>
> The external clock frequency shall be retrieved by obtaining the external clock
> using the ``devm_v4l2_sensor_clk_get()`` helper function, and then getting its
> frequency with ``clk_get_rate()``. Usage of the helper function guarantees
> correct behaviour regardless of whether the sensor is integrated in a DT-based
> or ACPI-based system.
>
> ACPI
> ~~~~
>
> ACPI-based systems typically don't register the sensor external clock with the
> kernel, but specify the external clock frequency in the ``clock-frequency``
> _DSD property. The ``devm_v4l2_sensor_clk_get()`` helper creates and returns a
> fixed clock set at that rate.
>
> Devicetree
> ~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Devicetree-based systems declare the sensor external clock in the device tree
> and reference it from the sensor node. The preferred way to select the external
> clock frequency is to use the ``assigned-clocks``, ``assigned-clock-parents``
> and ``assigned-clock-rates`` properties in the sensor node to set the clock
> rate. See the `clock device tree bindings
> <https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema/blob/main/dtschema/schemas/clock/clock.yaml>`_
> for more information. The ``devm_v4l2_sensor_clk_get()`` helper retrieves and
> returns that clock.
>
> This approach has the drawback that there's no guarantee that the frequency
> hasn't been modified directly or indirectly by another driver, or supported by
> the board's clock tree to begin with. Changes to the Common Clock Framework API
> are required to ensure reliability.
This looks good to me.
>
>
> >
> > Devicetree
>
--
Regards,
Sakari Ailus
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Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-19 17:58 [PATCH v1 00/55] media: Add a helper for obtaining the clock producer Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 01/55] media: v4l2-common: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 22:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 02/55] Documentation: media: camera-sensor: Mention v4l2_devm_sensor_clk_get() for obtaining the clock Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 21:47 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-23 10:49 ` Sakari Ailus [this message]
2025-06-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 03/55] media: i2c: ar0521: Use the v4l2 helper " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-21 10:21 ` Krzysztof Hałasa | Łukasiewicz – PIAP
2025-06-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 04/55] media: i2c: ds90ub913: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 05/55] media: i2c: ds90ub960: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 06/55] media: i2c: et8ek8: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 07/55] media: i2c: gc05a2: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 08/55] media: i2c: gc08a3: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 09/55] media: i2c: gc2145: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 10/55] media: i2c: hi846: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 11/55] media: i2c: imx214: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 12/55] media: i2c: imx219: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 13/55] media: i2c: imx283: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 14/55] media: i2c: imx290: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 15/55] media: i2c: imx296: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 16/55] media: i2c: imx334: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 17/55] media: i2c: imx335: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 18/55] media: i2c: imx412: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 19/55] media: i2c: imx415: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-21 14:23 ` Michael Riesch
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 20/55] media: i2c: max2175: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 21/55] media: i2c: mt9m001: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 22/55] media: i2c: mt9m111: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 23/55] media: i2c: mt9m114: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 24/55] media: i2c: mt9p031: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 25/55] media: i2c: mt9t112: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 26/55] media: i2c: mt9v032: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 27/55] media: i2c: mt9v111: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 28/55] media: i2c: ov02a10: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 29/55] media: i2c: ov2659: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 30/55] media: i2c: ov2685: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 31/55] media: i2c: ov5640: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 32/55] media: i2c: ov5645: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 33/55] media: i2c: ov5647: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 34/55] media: i2c: ov5648: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 35/55] media: i2c: ov5695: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 36/55] media: i2c: ov64a40: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 37/55] media: i2c: ov6650: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 38/55] media: i2c: ov7740: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 39/55] media: i2c: ov8856: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 40/55] media: i2c: ov8858: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 41/55] media: i2c: ov8865: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 21:57 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 21:59 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-21 7:58 ` Sakari Ailus
2025-06-21 8:27 ` Hans de Goede
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 42/55] media: i2c: ov9282: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 43/55] media: i2c: ov9640: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 17:59 ` [PATCH v1 44/55] media: i2c: ov9650: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 18:09 ` [PATCH v1 45/55] media: i2c: s5c73m3: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 18:11 ` [PATCH v1 46/55] media: i2c: s5k5baf: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 18:11 ` [PATCH v1 47/55] media: i2c: s5k6a3: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 18:11 ` [PATCH v1 48/55] media: i2c: st-mipid02: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 18:11 ` [PATCH v1 50/55] media: i2c: tc358746: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 18:11 ` [PATCH v1 51/55] media: i2c: thp7312: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 18:11 ` [PATCH v1 52/55] media: i2c: vd55g1: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 18:11 ` [PATCH v1 53/55] media: i2c: vd56g3: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 18:11 ` [PATCH v1 54/55] media: i2c: vgxy61: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 18:11 ` [PATCH v1 55/55] media: i2c: ov2680: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 22:00 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-19 18:15 ` [PATCH v1 49/55] media: i2c: tc358743: " Mehdi Djait
2025-06-19 21:26 ` [PATCH v1 00/55] media: Add a helper for obtaining the clock producer Laurent Pinchart
2025-06-21 14:28 ` Michael Riesch
2025-06-22 11:45 ` Hans de Goede
2025-06-24 20:34 ` Lad, Prabhakar
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