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From: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghuay@nvidia.com>,
	Maciej Wieczor-Retman <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>,
	Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
	Drew Fustini <dfustini@baylibre.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Anil Keshavamurthy <anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com>,
	Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	patches@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 18/30] x86/resctrl: Count valid telemetry aggregators per package
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 15:48:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aG7xxIzTZ2hAVrxP@agluck-desk3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <74a1e5f0-5484-4952-9a61-7a4e5b96b707@intel.com>

On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 03:13:20PM -0700, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Tony,
> 
> On 7/9/25 11:12 AM, Luck, Tony wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 08, 2025 at 07:20:35PM -0700, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> >> As I understand there is 1:1 relationship between struct event_group and struct pmt_feature_group.
> >> It thus seems unnecessary to loop through all the telemetry regions of a struct pmt_feature_group
> >> if it is known to not be associated with the "event group"?
> >> Could it be helpful to add a new (hardcoded) event_group::id that is of type enum pmt_feature_id
> >> that can be used to ensure that only relevant struct pmt_feature_group is used to discover events
> >> for a particular struct event_group?
> >>
> >> Another consideration is that this implementation seems to require that guids are unique across
> >> all telemetry regions of all RMID telemetry features, is this guaranteed?
> > 
> > The guids are unique. The XML file tags them like this:
> > 
> > 	<TELEM:uniqueid>26557651</TELEM:uniqueid>
> 
> I interpret above that guid is expected to be unique for one
> telemetry feature. It is not clear to me that it implies that the guid
> is unique across all telemetry features. For example, what prevents
> a platform from using the same guid for all the telemetry features it
> supports?

There are several non-RMID based telemetry MMIO regions in addition to
the two used by this patch series.

Think of the uniqueid as a signature for the format of the region.
Which event counters are present, in which order? How many total
counters? What is the binary format of each counter?

Or think of it as a key. Usermode telemetry tools that access these MMIO
regions use the uniqueid to choose which XML file to use to interpret
the data. I'm effectively doing this, but without including an XML
parser in the kernel. Just distilling each XML file to the basic
essence described in the event_group structure.

It would be a catastrophic failure if Intel assigned the same uniqueid
to regions that had different formats.

> 
> > 
> > the "guid" naming of the value comes from the Intel PMT_DISCOVERY driver.
> > 
> > An alternative to adding the new event_group::id field would be to
> > separate the arrays of known event groups. I.e. change from:
> > 
> > static struct event_group *known_event_groups[] = {
> >         &energy_0x26696143,
> >         &perf_0x26557651,
> > };
> > 
> > to
> > 
> > static struct event_group *known_energy_event_groups[] = {
> >         &energy_0x26696143,
> > };
> > 
> > static struct event_group *known_perf_event_groups[] = {
> >         &perf_0x26557651,
> > };
> > 
> > then only scan the appropriate array that matches the
> > enum pmt_feature_id passed to get_pmt_feature().
> > 
> > 
> > With only one option in each array today this looks
> > like extra infrasctruture. But I already have a patch
> > for the next generation system that adds another guid.
> 
> This also sounds good. Thank you.

Ok. Thanks. I'll put this idea into code in the next version.

> 
> Reinette
> 

-Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-09 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-26 16:49 [PATCH v6 00/30] x86,fs/resctrl telemetry monitoring Tony Luck
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 01/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Consolidate monitor event descriptions Tony Luck
2025-06-27 21:55   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-07-08 20:52   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 02/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Replace architecture event enabled checks Tony Luck
2025-06-27 22:15   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-07-08 20:52   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 03/30] x86/resctrl: Remove 'rdt_mon_features' global variable Tony Luck
2025-07-08 20:53   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 04/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Prepare for more monitor events Tony Luck
2025-07-08 20:55   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 05/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Improve domain type checking Tony Luck
2025-07-08 21:01   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 06/30] x86/resctrl: Move L3 initialization out of domain_add_cpu_mon() Tony Luck
2025-07-08 20:56   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 07/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Refactor domain_remove_cpu_mon() ready for new domain types Tony Luck
2025-07-08 20:57   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 08/30] x86/resctrl: Clean up domain_remove_cpu_ctrl() Tony Luck
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 09/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Use struct rdt_domain_hdr instead of struct rdt_mon_domain Tony Luck
2025-07-08 21:04   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 10/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Rename struct rdt_mon_domain and rdt_hw_mon_domain Tony Luck
2025-07-08 21:06   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 11/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Rename some L3 specific functions Tony Luck
2025-07-08 21:08   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 12/30] fs/resctrl: Make event details accessible to functions when reading events Tony Luck
2025-07-09 22:12   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 13/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Handle events that can be read from any CPU Tony Luck
2025-07-08 21:15   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 14/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Support binary fixed point event counters Tony Luck
2025-06-27 21:22   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-06-27 22:28     ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-27 21:49   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-07-08 21:46   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-09 16:52     ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 15/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Add an architectural hook called for each mount Tony Luck
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 16/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Add and initialize rdt_resource for package scope core monitor Tony Luck
2025-07-08 22:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 17/30] x86/resctrl: Discover hardware telemetry events Tony Luck
2025-06-27 18:06   ` Luck, Tony
2025-07-03 18:27     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-03 20:17       ` Luck, Tony
2025-07-03 20:31         ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-03 21:11           ` Luck, Tony
2025-07-03 22:00             ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-03 23:29               ` Luck, Tony
2025-07-08 23:51   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 18/30] x86/resctrl: Count valid telemetry aggregators per package Tony Luck
2025-07-09  2:20   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-09 18:12     ` Luck, Tony
2025-07-09 22:13       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-09 22:48         ` Luck, Tony [this message]
2025-07-09 22:59           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 19/30] x86/resctrl: Complete telemetry event enumeration Tony Luck
2025-07-09  2:38   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 20/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Fill in details of Clearwater Forest events Tony Luck
2025-07-09  3:00   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 21/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Add architectural event pointer Tony Luck
2025-07-09  3:21   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-09 21:16     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 22/30] x86/resctrl: Read core telemetry events Tony Luck
2025-07-09 15:48   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-09 21:57     ` Luck, Tony
2025-07-09 22:13       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 23/30] x86/resctrl: Handle domain creation/deletion for RDT_RESOURCE_PERF_PKG Tony Luck
2025-07-09 22:13   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 24/30] x86/resctrl: Add energy/perf choices to rdt boot option Tony Luck
2025-07-09 22:14   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 25/30] x86/resctrl: Handle number of RMIDs supported by telemetry resources Tony Luck
2025-07-09 22:17   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 26/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Move RMID initialization to first mount Tony Luck
2025-07-09 22:18   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 27/30] x86/resctrl: Enable RDT_RESOURCE_PERF_PKG Tony Luck
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 28/30] fs/resctrl: Provide interface to create a debugfs info directory Tony Luck
2025-07-09 22:19   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 29/30] x86/resctrl: Add debug info/PERF_PKG_MON/status files Tony Luck
2025-07-09 22:22   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-26 16:49 ` [PATCH v6 30/30] x86,fs/resctrl: Update Documentation for package events Tony Luck
2025-07-09 22:24   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-27  0:26 ` [PATCH v6 00/30] x86,fs/resctrl telemetry monitoring Luck, Tony
2025-06-27 18:09   ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-30 17:51 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-30 22:46   ` Luck, Tony
2025-07-08 20:50     ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-03 16:45 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-03 17:22   ` Luck, Tony
2025-07-08 19:08     ` Luck, Tony
2025-07-08 20:49       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-07-08 22:43         ` Luck, Tony
2025-07-08 23:26           ` Reinette Chatre

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