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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: kraxel@redhat.com, vivek.kasireddy@intel.com,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, sumit.semwal@linaro.org,
	benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com, Brian.Starkey@arm.com,
	jstultz@google.com, tjmercier@google.com,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com, l.stach@pengutronix.de,
	linux+etnaviv@armlinux.org.uk, christian.gmeiner@gmail.com,
	etnaviv@lists.freedesktop.org, phone-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: DMA-BUFs always uncached on arm64, causing poor camera performance on Librem 5
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 10:24:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aG94uNDrL1MdHJPM@duo.ucw.cz> (raw)

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Hi!

It seems that DMA-BUFs are always uncached on arm64... which is a
problem.

I'm trying to get useful camera support on Librem 5, and that includes
recording vidos (and taking photos).

memcpy() from normal memory is about 2msec/1MB. Unfortunately, for
DMA-BUFs it is 20msec/1MB, and that basically means I can't easily do
760p video recording. Plus, copying full-resolution photo buffer takes
more than 200msec!

There's possibility to do some processing on GPU, and its implemented here:

https://gitlab.com/tui/tui/-/tree/master/icam?ref_type=heads

but that hits the same problem in the end -- data is in DMA-BUF,
uncached, and takes way too long to copy out.

And that's ... wrong. DMA ended seconds ago, complete cache flush
would be way cheaper than copying single frame out, and I still have
to deal with uncached frames.

So I have two questions:

1) Is my analysis correct that, no matter how I get frame from v4l and
process it on GPU, I'll have to copy it from uncached memory in the
end?

2) Does anyone have patches / ideas / roadmap how to solve that? It
makes GPU unusable for computing, and camera basically unusable for
video.

Best regards,
								Pavel
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             reply	other threads:[~2025-07-10  8:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-10  8:24 Pavel Machek [this message]
2025-07-10  8:42 ` Lucas Stach
2025-07-10  8:49   ` Pavel Machek
2025-07-10 21:52     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-07-10 16:01 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2025-07-13 19:54 ` Mikhail Rudenko

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