From: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
To: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Andre Edich <andre.edich@microchip.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v1 2/2] net: phy: smsc: add adaptive polling to recover missed link-up on LAN8700
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 20:10:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aGwNnBJbM9LWnJ8f@wunner.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250707153232.1082819-3-o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
On Mon, Jul 07, 2025 at 05:32:32PM +0200, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
> Fixe unreliable link detection on LAN8700 configured for 10 Mbit / half-
s/Fixe/Fix/
> or full-duplex against an autonegotiating partner and similar scenarios.
>
> The LAN8700 PHY (build in to LAN9512 and similar adapters) can fail to
s/build/built/
> report a link-up event when it is forced to a fixed speed/duplex and the
> link partner still advertises autonegotiation. During link establishment
> the PHY raises several interrupts while the link is not yet up; once the
> link finally comes up no further interrupt is generated, so phylib never
> observes the transition and the kernel keeps the interface down even
> though ethtool shows the link as up.
>
> Mitigate this by combining interrupts with adaptive polling:
>
> - When the driver is running in pure polling mode it continues to poll
> once per second (unchanged).
> - With an IRQ present we now
> - poll every 30 s while the link is up (low overhead);
> - switch to a 1 s poll for up to 30 s after the last IRQ and while the
> link is down, ensuring we catch the final silent link-up.
I think this begs the question, if we *know* that the link may come up
belatedly without an interrupt, why poll? Would it work to schedule a
one-off link check after a reasonable delay to catch the link change?
I'm also wondering if enabling EDPD changes the behavior?
> +static unsigned int smsc_phy_get_next_update(struct phy_device *phydev)
> +{
> + struct smsc_phy_priv *priv = phydev->priv;
> +
> + /* If interrupts are disabled, fall back to default polling */
> + if (phydev->irq == PHY_POLL)
> + return SMSC_NOIRQ_POLLING_INTERVAL;
> +
> + /* The PHY sometimes drops the *final* link-up IRQ when we run
> + * with autoneg OFF (10 Mbps HD/FD) against an autonegotiating
> + * partner: we see several "link down" IRQs, none for "link up".
Hm, I'm not seeing a check for all those conditions (e.g. autoneg off) here?
Also, you seem to be using UTF-8 characters instead of US-ASCII single or
double quotes around "link down" and "link up".
> + *
> + * Work-around philosophy:
> + * - If the link is already up, the hazard is past, so we
> + * revert to a relaxed 30 s poll to save power.
> + * - Otherwise we stay in a tighter polling loop for up to one
> + * full interval after the last IRQ in case the crucial
> + * link-up IRQ was lost. Empirically 5 s is enough but we
> + * keep 30 s to be extra conservative.
> + */
> + if (!priv->last_irq || phydev->link ||
> + time_is_before_jiffies(priv->last_irq + SMSC_IRQ_POLLING_INTERVAL))
> + return SMSC_IRQ_POLLING_INTERVAL;
> +
> + return SMSC_NOIRQ_POLLING_INTERVAL;
> +}
Thanks,
Lukas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-07 18:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-07 15:32 [PATCH net v1 0/2] net: phy: smsc: use IRQ + relaxed polling to fix missed link-up Oleksij Rempel
2025-07-07 15:32 ` [PATCH net v1 1/2] net: phy: enable polling when driver implements get_next_update_time Oleksij Rempel
2025-07-07 15:32 ` [PATCH net v1 2/2] net: phy: smsc: add adaptive polling to recover missed link-up on LAN8700 Oleksij Rempel
2025-07-07 18:10 ` Lukas Wunner [this message]
2025-07-08 9:19 ` Oleksij Rempel
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