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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
Cc: "Gustavo Silva" <gustavograzs@gmail.com>,
	"Alex Lanzano" <lanzano.alex@gmail.com>,
	"David Lechner" <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
	"Nuno Sá" <nuno.sa@analog.com>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andy@kernel.org>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Lothar Rubusch" <l.rubusch@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] iio: imu: bmi270: add support for motion events
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 00:26:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aIKlC-HlP3nX-ERA@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250724162227.065d20a0@jic23-huawei>

On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 04:22:27PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 12:53:55 +0300
> Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 08:55:35PM -0300, Gustavo Silva wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 10:49:25AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:  
> > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 10:37:22AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:  
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 08:36:03PM -0300, Gustavo Silva wrote:  

...

> > > > > > +/* 9.81 * 1000000 m/s^2 */
> > > > > > +#define BMI270_G_MEGA_M_S_2				9810000  
> > > > > 
> > > > > I thought this is MICRO...  
> > > > 
> > > > Btw, what if we use the device on poles and on equator (or even on orbital
> > > > station)? I'm wondering if this constant should be defined in units.h or
> > > > even in uAPI that user space may add a correction if needed.
> > > >   
> > > I certainly hadn't thought about these scenarios.
> > > FWIW, the accelerometer scale values also assume g = 9.81 m/s^2.
> > > For example, 0.000598 = 2 * 9.81 / 32768  
> > 
> > Right, but this should be supplied to user space somehow. OTOH the measure error
> > may be high enough (what is the precision of the measurements by the way?) that
> > it will neglect the differences in the 'g' constant.
> > 
> > All the details are given in [1].
> > 
> > [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_of_Earth#:~:text=The%20precise%20strength%20of%20Earth's,/s2)%20by%20definition.
> 
> These sensors don't measure relative to g.

What do they measure? Any links for me to study?

> That's annoying marketing which is why I held firm for m/s^2 for IIO :)
> So what they measure for a given acceleration does not change depending
> on where we are on earth. You should use a 'fixed' standard value for
> conversion from marketing values in g to m/s^2..

Hmm... But shouldn't that marketing value be exposed to user space?


-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-24 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250711-bmi270-events-v4-0-53ec7da35046@gmail.com>
2025-07-11 23:36 ` Gustavo Silva
2025-07-15  7:37   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-07-15  7:49     ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-07-15 23:55       ` Gustavo Silva
2025-07-16  9:53         ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-07-24 15:22           ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-24 21:26             ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2025-07-27 15:49               ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-02 11:58                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-04 22:26                   ` Gustavo Silva
2025-08-10 18:25                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-15 23:52     ` Gustavo Silva
2025-07-16  9:49       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-07-24 15:28         ` Jonathan Cameron

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