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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
To: "Jean-François Lessard" <jefflessard3@gmail.com>
Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andy@kernel.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/6] auxdisplay: TM16xx: Add support for I2C-based controllers
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 18:30:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aK3TIVbmFgv1ZiYs@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <951E84EF-4ED7-4882-A5E2-6E3CD63E1E07@gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 12:01:57AM -0400, Jean-François Lessard wrote:
> Le 25 août 2025 11 h 18 min 27 s HAE, Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com> a écrit :
> >On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 11:32:31PM -0400, Jean-François Lessard wrote:

...

> >Can we use regmap for all parts of the driver? Why not?
> 
> These controllers implement custom 2-wire/3-wire protocols that share
> sufficient commonalities with I2C/SPI to leverage those subsystems, but are not
> fully compliant with standard register-based access patterns.
> 
> Specific regmap incompatibilities:
> 
> I2C protocol:
> - Dynamic addressing: slave address embedded in command byte (data[0] >> 1)

Isn't this called paging? Or actually we have also non-standard
(non-power-of-2) regmap implementations, perhaps one of them
(7 + 9) if exists is what you need?

> - Custom message flags: requires I2C_M_NO_RD_ACK for reads

Hmm... If we have more than one device like this, we might implement the
support in regmap. Or, perhaps, the custom regmap IO accessors can solve this.

> SPI protocol:
> - Inter-transfer timing: mandatory TM16XX_SPI_TWAIT_US delay between
> command/data

One may implement custom regmap IO accessors.

> - CS control: requires cs_change = 0 to maintain assertion across phases
> 
> Regmap's I2C/SPI bus implementations use fixed addressing and standard transfer
> patterns without support for these protocol-specific requirements. A custom
> regmap bus would internally call these same helper functions without providing
> practical benefit.

regmap provides a few benefits on top of the raw implementations. First of all,
it takes care about synchronisation (and as a side effect enables
configurations of the multi-functional HW, if ever needed in this case). It also
gives a debugfs implementation, and paging support (if it's what we need).
And many more...

> The explicit transfer approach better reflects the actual hardware protocol
> requirements.

That said, please, try to look into it closer.

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-26 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-25  3:32 [PATCH v4 0/6] auxdisplay: Add TM16xx 7-segment LED matrix display controllers driver Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-25  3:32 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] dt-bindings: vendor-prefixes: Add fdhisi, titanmec, princeton, winrise, wxicore Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-25 13:53   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-08-26  2:57     ` Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-25  3:32 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] dt-bindings: auxdisplay: add Titan Micro Electronics TM16xx Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-25 18:26   ` Rob Herring
2025-08-26  1:33     ` Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-26 14:37       ` Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-29 15:26       ` Rob Herring
2025-08-29 16:26         ` Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-25 19:08   ` Per Larsson
2025-08-26  1:53     ` Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-25  3:32 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] auxdisplay: Add TM16xx 7-segment LED matrix display controllers driver Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-25 15:14   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-08-25 17:48     ` Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-26 15:22       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-08-26 20:44         ` Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-27 18:37       ` Jean-François Lessard
2025-09-01  6:04         ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-08-25  3:32 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] auxdisplay: TM16xx: Add keypad support for scanning matrix keys Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-25  3:32 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] auxdisplay: TM16xx: Add support for I2C-based controllers Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-25 15:18   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-08-26  4:01     ` Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-26 15:30       ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2025-08-26 17:38         ` Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-26 18:26           ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-08-26 20:21             ` Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-25  3:32 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] auxdisplay: TM16xx: Add support for SPI-based controllers Jean-François Lessard
2025-08-25 15:19   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-08-26  4:04     ` Jean-François Lessard

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