From: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Kory Maincent <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>,
kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz>,
Roan van Dijk <roan@protonic.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 1/5] ethtool: introduce core UAPI and driver API for PHY MSE diagnostics
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2025 06:44:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aKVSpmKR0MGZhAD1@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <489b2959-3374-4766-a982-9e7c26077899@lunn.ch>
On Wed, Aug 20, 2025 at 05:03:14AM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > Channel-to-pair mapping is normally straightforward, but in some cases
> > (e.g. 100BASE-TX with MDI-X resolution unknown) the mapping is ambiguous.
> > If hardware does not expose MDI-X status, the exact pair cannot be
> > determined. To avoid returning misleading per-channel data in this case,
> > a LINK selector is defined for aggregate MSE measurements.
>
> This is the same with cable test. The API just labels the pairs using
>
> ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_A,
> ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_B,
> ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_C,
> ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_D,
>
> It does not take into account MDI-X or anything.
In the case of the cable test, MDI-X does not affect the reported
results, or if it does, we can actively change the configuration and
re-run the test. For SQI/MSE on this chip, however, the measurement is
purely passive. If the hardware does not expose an MDI-X indicator, we
cannot reliably assign the values to a specific pair, so we need the
LINK selector to avoid returning misleading data.
> > @@ -1174,6 +1246,60 @@ struct phy_driver {
> > /** @get_sqi_max: Get the maximum signal quality indication */
> > int (*get_sqi_max)(struct phy_device *dev);
> >
> > + /**
> > + * get_mse_config - Get configuration and scale of MSE measurement
> > + * @dev: PHY device
> > + * @config: Output (filled on success)
> > + *
> > + * Fill @config with the PHY's MSE configuration for the current
> > + * link mode: scale limits (max_average_mse, max_peak_mse), update
> > + * interval (refresh_rate_ps), sample length (num_symbols) and the
> > + * capability bitmask (supported_caps).
> > + *
> > + * Implementations may defer configuration until hardware has
> > + * converged; in that case they should return -EAGAIN and allow the
> > + * caller to retry later.
> > + *
> > + * Return:
> > + * * 0 - success, @config is valid
> > + * * -EOPNOTSUPP - MSE configuration not implemented by the PHY
> > + * or not supported in the current link mode
> > + * * -ENETDOWN - link is down and configuration is not
> > + * available in that state
>
> This seems a bit odd. phylib knows the state of the link. If it is
> down, why would it even ask?
Good point. I'll remove this part of comment.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-20 4:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-15 6:35 [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] ethtool: introduce PHY MSE diagnostics UAPI and drivers Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-15 6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/5] ethtool: introduce core UAPI and driver API for PHY MSE diagnostics Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-20 3:03 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-08-20 4:44 ` Oleksij Rempel [this message]
2025-08-15 6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] ethtool: netlink: add ETHTOOL_MSG_MSE_GET and wire up PHY MSE access Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-15 6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/5] ethtool: netlink: add lightweight MSE reporting to LINKSTATE_GET Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-19 2:35 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-08-15 6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/5] net: phy: micrel: add MSE interface support for KSZ9477 family Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-15 6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/5] net: phy: dp83td510: add MSE interface support for 10BASE-T1L Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-18 8:15 ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-08-18 9:20 ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-20 12:11 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-08-20 12:26 ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-20 13:32 ` Andrew Lunn
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