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From: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Kory Maincent <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
	Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
	Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz>,
	Roan van Dijk <roan@protonic.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 1/5] ethtool: introduce core UAPI and driver API for PHY MSE diagnostics
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2025 06:44:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aKVSpmKR0MGZhAD1@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <489b2959-3374-4766-a982-9e7c26077899@lunn.ch>

On Wed, Aug 20, 2025 at 05:03:14AM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > Channel-to-pair mapping is normally straightforward, but in some cases
> > (e.g. 100BASE-TX with MDI-X resolution unknown) the mapping is ambiguous.
> > If hardware does not expose MDI-X status, the exact pair cannot be
> > determined. To avoid returning misleading per-channel data in this case,
> > a LINK selector is defined for aggregate MSE measurements.
> 
> This is the same with cable test. The API just labels the pairs using
> 
>         ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_A,
>         ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_B,
>         ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_C,
>         ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_D,
> 
> It does not take into account MDI-X or anything.

In the case of the cable test, MDI-X does not affect the reported
results, or if it does, we can actively change the configuration and
re-run the test. For SQI/MSE on this chip, however, the measurement is
purely passive. If the hardware does not expose an MDI-X indicator, we
cannot reliably assign the values to a specific pair, so we need the
LINK selector to avoid returning misleading data.

> > @@ -1174,6 +1246,60 @@ struct phy_driver {
> >  	/** @get_sqi_max: Get the maximum signal quality indication */
> >  	int (*get_sqi_max)(struct phy_device *dev);
> >  
> > +	/**
> > +	 * get_mse_config - Get configuration and scale of MSE measurement
> > +	 * @dev:    PHY device
> > +	 * @config: Output (filled on success)
> > +	 *
> > +	 * Fill @config with the PHY's MSE configuration for the current
> > +	 * link mode: scale limits (max_average_mse, max_peak_mse), update
> > +	 * interval (refresh_rate_ps), sample length (num_symbols) and the
> > +	 * capability bitmask (supported_caps).
> > +	 *
> > +	 * Implementations may defer configuration until hardware has
> > +	 * converged; in that case they should return -EAGAIN and allow the
> > +	 * caller to retry later.
> > +	 *
> > +	 * Return:
> > +	 *  * 0              - success, @config is valid
> > +	 *  * -EOPNOTSUPP    - MSE configuration not implemented by the PHY
> > +	 *		       or not supported in the current link mode
> > +	 *  * -ENETDOWN      - link is down and configuration is not
> > +	 *		       available in that state
> 
> This seems a bit odd. phylib knows the state of the link. If it is
> down, why would it even ask? 

Good point. I'll remove this part of comment.

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-20  4:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-15  6:35 [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] ethtool: introduce PHY MSE diagnostics UAPI and drivers Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-15  6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/5] ethtool: introduce core UAPI and driver API for PHY MSE diagnostics Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-20  3:03   ` Andrew Lunn
2025-08-20  4:44     ` Oleksij Rempel [this message]
2025-08-15  6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] ethtool: netlink: add ETHTOOL_MSG_MSE_GET and wire up PHY MSE access Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-15  6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/5] ethtool: netlink: add lightweight MSE reporting to LINKSTATE_GET Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-19  2:35   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-08-15  6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/5] net: phy: micrel: add MSE interface support for KSZ9477 family Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-15  6:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/5] net: phy: dp83td510: add MSE interface support for 10BASE-T1L Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-18  8:15   ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-08-18  9:20     ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-20 12:11       ` Andrew Lunn
2025-08-20 12:26         ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-08-20 13:32           ` Andrew Lunn

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