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From: Gabriel Paubert <paubert@iram.es>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Andre Almeida <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/10] powerpc/uaccess: Implement masked user access
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 11:04:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aKwnMo7UllLZkOcK@lt-gp.iram.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <647f1b1db985aec8ec1163bf97688563ae6f9609.1755854833.git.christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>


Hi Christophe,

On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 11:58:06AM +0200, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> Masked user access avoids the address/size verification by access_ok().
> Allthough its main purpose is to skip the speculation in the
> verification of user address and size hence avoid the need of spec
> mitigation, it also has the advantage of reducing the amount of
> instructions required so it even benefits to platforms that don't
> need speculation mitigation, especially when the size of the copy is
> not know at build time.
> 
> So implement masked user access on powerpc. The only requirement is
> to have memory gap that faults between the top user space and the
> real start of kernel area.
> 
> On 64 bits platforms the address space is divided that way:
> 
> 	0xffffffffffffffff	+------------------+
> 				|                  |
> 				|   kernel space   |
>  		 		|                  |
> 	0xc000000000000000	+------------------+  <== PAGE_OFFSET
> 				|//////////////////|
> 				|//////////////////|
> 	0x8000000000000000	|//////////////////|
> 				|//////////////////|
> 				|//////////////////|
> 	0x0010000000000000	+------------------+  <== TASK_SIZE_MAX
> 				|                  |
> 				|    user space    |
> 				|                  |
> 	0x0000000000000000	+------------------+
> 
> Kernel is always above 0x8000000000000000 and user always
> below, with a gap in-between. It leads to a 4 instructions sequence:
> 
>   80:	7c 69 1b 78 	mr      r9,r3
>   84:	7c 63 fe 76 	sradi   r3,r3,63
>   88:	7d 29 18 78 	andc    r9,r9,r3
>   8c:	79 23 00 4c 	rldimi  r3,r9,0,1
> 
> This sequence leaves r3 unmodified when it is below 0x8000000000000000
> and clamps it to 0x8000000000000000 if it is above.
> 

This comment looks wrong: the second instruction converts r3 to a
replicated sign bit of the address ((addr>0)?0:-1) if treating the
address as signed. After that the code only modifies the MSB of r3. So I
don't see how r3 could be unchanged from the original value...

OTOH, I believe the following 3 instructions sequence would work,
input address (a) in r3, scratch value (tmp) in r9, both intptr_t:

	sradi r9,r3,63	; tmp = (a >= 0) ? 0L : -1L;
	andc r3,r3,r9   ; a = a & ~tmp; (equivalently a = (a >= 0) ? a : 0)
	rldimi r3,r9,0,1 ; copy MSB of tmp to MSB of a 

But maybe I goofed...

Gabriel

 
 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-25  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22  9:57 [PATCH v2 00/10] powerpc: " Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] iter: Avoid barrier_nospec() in copy_from_user_iter() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] uaccess: Add speculation barrier to copy_from_user_iter() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 13:46   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-08-22 14:11     ` Giorgi Tchankvetadze
2025-08-22 18:53     ` David Laight
2025-08-22  9:57 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] uaccess: Add masked_user_{read/write}_access_begin Christophe Leroy
2025-08-24 15:08   ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-22  9:58 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] powerpc/uaccess: Move barrier_nospec() out of allow_read_{from/write}_user() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22  9:58 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] powerpc/uaccess: Remove unused size and from parameters from allow_access_user() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22  9:58 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] powerpc/uaccess: Remove {allow/prevent}_{read/write/read_write}_{from/to/}_user() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22  9:58 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] powerpc/uaccess: Refactor user_{read/write/}_access_begin() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22  9:58 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] powerpc/32s: Fix segments setup when TASK_SIZE is not a multiple of 256M Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22  9:58 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] powerpc/32: Automatically adapt TASK_SIZE based on constraints Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 12:04   ` David Laight
2025-08-22  9:58 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] powerpc/uaccess: Implement masked user access Christophe Leroy
2025-08-25  9:04   ` Gabriel Paubert [this message]
2025-08-25  9:40     ` Christophe Leroy
2025-08-25 10:18       ` Gabriel Paubert

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