From: Gabriel Paubert <paubert@iram.es>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/10] powerpc/uaccess: Implement masked user access
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 11:04:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aKwnMo7UllLZkOcK@lt-gp.iram.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <647f1b1db985aec8ec1163bf97688563ae6f9609.1755854833.git.christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Hi Christophe,
On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 11:58:06AM +0200, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> Masked user access avoids the address/size verification by access_ok().
> Allthough its main purpose is to skip the speculation in the
> verification of user address and size hence avoid the need of spec
> mitigation, it also has the advantage of reducing the amount of
> instructions required so it even benefits to platforms that don't
> need speculation mitigation, especially when the size of the copy is
> not know at build time.
>
> So implement masked user access on powerpc. The only requirement is
> to have memory gap that faults between the top user space and the
> real start of kernel area.
>
> On 64 bits platforms the address space is divided that way:
>
> 0xffffffffffffffff +------------------+
> | |
> | kernel space |
> | |
> 0xc000000000000000 +------------------+ <== PAGE_OFFSET
> |//////////////////|
> |//////////////////|
> 0x8000000000000000 |//////////////////|
> |//////////////////|
> |//////////////////|
> 0x0010000000000000 +------------------+ <== TASK_SIZE_MAX
> | |
> | user space |
> | |
> 0x0000000000000000 +------------------+
>
> Kernel is always above 0x8000000000000000 and user always
> below, with a gap in-between. It leads to a 4 instructions sequence:
>
> 80: 7c 69 1b 78 mr r9,r3
> 84: 7c 63 fe 76 sradi r3,r3,63
> 88: 7d 29 18 78 andc r9,r9,r3
> 8c: 79 23 00 4c rldimi r3,r9,0,1
>
> This sequence leaves r3 unmodified when it is below 0x8000000000000000
> and clamps it to 0x8000000000000000 if it is above.
>
This comment looks wrong: the second instruction converts r3 to a
replicated sign bit of the address ((addr>0)?0:-1) if treating the
address as signed. After that the code only modifies the MSB of r3. So I
don't see how r3 could be unchanged from the original value...
OTOH, I believe the following 3 instructions sequence would work,
input address (a) in r3, scratch value (tmp) in r9, both intptr_t:
sradi r9,r3,63 ; tmp = (a >= 0) ? 0L : -1L;
andc r3,r3,r9 ; a = a & ~tmp; (equivalently a = (a >= 0) ? a : 0)
rldimi r3,r9,0,1 ; copy MSB of tmp to MSB of a
But maybe I goofed...
Gabriel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-25 9:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-22 9:57 [PATCH v2 00/10] powerpc: " Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 9:57 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] iter: Avoid barrier_nospec() in copy_from_user_iter() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 9:57 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] uaccess: Add speculation barrier to copy_from_user_iter() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 13:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-08-22 14:11 ` Giorgi Tchankvetadze
2025-08-22 18:53 ` David Laight
2025-08-22 9:57 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] uaccess: Add masked_user_{read/write}_access_begin Christophe Leroy
2025-08-24 15:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-22 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] powerpc/uaccess: Move barrier_nospec() out of allow_read_{from/write}_user() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] powerpc/uaccess: Remove unused size and from parameters from allow_access_user() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] powerpc/uaccess: Remove {allow/prevent}_{read/write/read_write}_{from/to/}_user() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] powerpc/uaccess: Refactor user_{read/write/}_access_begin() Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] powerpc/32s: Fix segments setup when TASK_SIZE is not a multiple of 256M Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] powerpc/32: Automatically adapt TASK_SIZE based on constraints Christophe Leroy
2025-08-22 12:04 ` David Laight
2025-08-22 9:58 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] powerpc/uaccess: Implement masked user access Christophe Leroy
2025-08-25 9:04 ` Gabriel Paubert [this message]
2025-08-25 9:40 ` Christophe Leroy
2025-08-25 10:18 ` Gabriel Paubert
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