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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Zecheng Li <zecheng@google.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	"Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Xu Liu <xliuprof@google.com>,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/10] perf dwarf-aux: More accurate variable type match for breg
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2025 17:53:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aLJLdzEIGg7tYq6M@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJUgMyK2wTiEZB__dtgCELmaNGFWhG1j0g9rv_C=cLD6Zq4_5w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 02:36:32PM -0400, Zecheng Li wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 3:19 AM Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 07:54:04PM +0000, Zecheng Li wrote:
> > > Introduces the function is_breg_access_indirect to determine whether a
> > > memory access involving a DW_OP_breg* operation refers to the variable's
> > > value directly or requires dereferencing the variable's type as a
> > > pointer based on the DWARF expression. Previously, all breg based
> > > accesses were assumed to directly access the variable's value
> > > (is_pointer = false).
> > >
> > > The is_breg_access_indirect function handles three cases:
> > >
> > > 1. Base register + offset only: (e.g., DW_OP_breg7 RSP+88) The
> > >    calculated address is the location of the variable. The access is
> > >    direct, so no type dereference is needed. Returns false.
> >
> > I'm afraid there may be cases that the base register doesn't point to
> > the stack.  In that case it may return true, right?
> 
> Hi Namhyung,
> 
> In this case, the DWARF specification for a DW_OP_breg* operation is
> to always calculate a memory address. So, even if the base register
> isn't the stack pointer, the expression still resolves to the
> variable's location, meaning the access is direct (is_pointer =
> false).

I've re-read the DWARF spec and I think you're right. :)

> 
> > I think struct find_var_data already has 'is_fbreg' field.  Maybe you
> > can add 'is_stack' or 'is_stack_reg' field if the target.  Currently we
> > hardcoded X86_REG_SP but it should be arch-dependent.
> 
> Therefore we don't need to check if the register is a stack or frame base.

Fair enough.

> 
> > >
> > > 2. Base register + offset, followed by other operations ending in
> > >    DW_OP_stack_value, including DW_OP_deref: (e.g., DW_OP_breg*,
> > >    DW_OP_deref, DW_OP_stack_value) The DWARF expression computes the
> > >    variable's value, but that value requires a dereference. The memory
> > >    access is fetching that value, so no type dereference is needed.
> > >    Returns false.
> > >
> > > 3. Base register + offset, followed only by DW_OP_stack_value: (e.g.,
> > >    DW_OP_breg13 R13+256, DW_OP_stack_value) This indicates the value at
> > >    the base + offset is the variable's value. Since this value is being
> > >    used as an address in the memory access, the variable's type is
> > >    treated as a pointer and requires a type dereference. Returns true.
> > >
> > > The is_pointer argument passed to match_var_offset is now set by
> > > is_breg_access_indirect for breg accesses.
> > >
> > > There are more complex expressions that includes multiple operations and
> > > may require additional handling, such as DW_OP_deref without a
> > > DW_OP_stack_value, or including multiple base registers. They are less
> > > common in the Linux kernel dwarf and are skipped in check_allowed_ops.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Zecheng Li <zecheng@google.com>

This also improved the data quality!

Reviewed-by: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>

Thanks,
Namhyung

> > > ---
> > >  tools/perf/util/dwarf-aux.c | 38 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
> > >  1 file changed, 33 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/tools/perf/util/dwarf-aux.c b/tools/perf/util/dwarf-aux.c
> > > index 920054425578..449bc9ad7aff 100644
> > > --- a/tools/perf/util/dwarf-aux.c
> > > +++ b/tools/perf/util/dwarf-aux.c
> > > @@ -1423,6 +1423,34 @@ static bool match_var_offset(Dwarf_Die *die_mem, struct find_var_data *data,
> > >       return true;
> > >  }
> > >
> > > +/**
> > > + * is_breg_access_indirect - Check if breg based access implies type
> > > + * dereference
> > > + * @ops: DWARF operations array
> > > + * @nops: Number of operations in @ops
> > > + *
> > > + * Returns true if the DWARF expression evaluates to the variable's
> > > + * value, so the memory access on that register needs type dereference.
> > > + * Returns false if the expression evaluates to the variable's address.
> > > + * This is called after check_allowed_ops.
> > > + */
> > > +static bool is_breg_access_indirect(Dwarf_Op *ops, size_t nops)
> > > +{
> > > +     /* only the base register */
> > > +     if (nops == 1)
> > > +             return false;
> >
> > Then it could be like below:
> >
> >         if (nops == 1) {
> >                 int reg = reg_from_dwarf_op(ops);
> >                 return !(reg == DWARF_REG_FB || data->is_fbreg || reg == data->is_stack);
> >         }
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Namhyung
> >
> > > +
> > > +     if (nops == 2 && ops[1].atom == DW_OP_stack_value)
> > > +             return true;
> > > +
> > > +     if (nops == 3 && (ops[1].atom == DW_OP_deref ||
> > > +             ops[1].atom == DW_OP_deref_size) &&
> > > +             ops[2].atom == DW_OP_stack_value)
> > > +             return false;
> > > +     /* unreachable, OP not supported */
> > > +     return false;
> > > +}
> > > +
> > >  /* Only checks direct child DIEs in the given scope. */
> > >  static int __die_find_var_reg_cb(Dwarf_Die *die_mem, void *arg)
> > >  {
> > > @@ -1451,7 +1479,7 @@ static int __die_find_var_reg_cb(Dwarf_Die *die_mem, void *arg)
> > >               if (data->is_fbreg && ops->atom == DW_OP_fbreg &&
> > >                   check_allowed_ops(ops, nops) &&
> > >                   match_var_offset(die_mem, data, data->offset, ops->number,
> > > -                                  /*is_pointer=*/false))
> > > +                                  is_breg_access_indirect(ops, nops)))
> > >                       return DIE_FIND_CB_END;
> > >
> > >               /* Only match with a simple case */
> > > @@ -1463,11 +1491,11 @@ static int __die_find_var_reg_cb(Dwarf_Die *die_mem, void *arg)
> > >                                            /*is_pointer=*/true))
> > >                               return DIE_FIND_CB_END;
> > >
> > > -                     /* Local variables accessed by a register + offset */
> > > +                     /* variables accessed by a register + offset */
> > >                       if (ops->atom == (DW_OP_breg0 + data->reg) &&
> > >                           check_allowed_ops(ops, nops) &&
> > >                           match_var_offset(die_mem, data, data->offset, ops->number,
> > > -                                          /*is_pointer=*/false))
> > > +                                          is_breg_access_indirect(ops, nops)))
> > >                               return DIE_FIND_CB_END;
> > >               } else {
> > >                       /* pointer variables saved in a register 32 or above */
> > > @@ -1477,11 +1505,11 @@ static int __die_find_var_reg_cb(Dwarf_Die *die_mem, void *arg)
> > >                                            /*is_pointer=*/true))
> > >                               return DIE_FIND_CB_END;
> > >
> > > -                     /* Local variables accessed by a register + offset */
> > > +                     /* variables accessed by a register + offset */
> > >                       if (ops->atom == DW_OP_bregx && data->reg == ops->number &&
> > >                           check_allowed_ops(ops, nops) &&
> > >                           match_var_offset(die_mem, data, data->offset, ops->number2,
> > > -                                          /*is_poitner=*/false))
> > > +                                          is_breg_access_indirect(ops, nops)))
> > >                               return DIE_FIND_CB_END;
> > >               }
> > >       }
> > > --
> > > 2.51.0.261.g7ce5a0a67e-goog
> > >

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-30  0:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-25 19:54 [PATCH v2 00/10] perf tools: Some improvements on data type profiler Zecheng Li
2025-08-25 19:54 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] perf dwarf-aux: Use signed variable types in match_var_offset Zecheng Li
2025-08-28  6:52   ` Namhyung Kim
2025-09-03 15:49     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-09-03 22:05       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-09-05 19:50         ` Namhyung Kim
2025-09-13 14:34           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-08-25 19:54 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] perf dwarf-aux: More accurate variable type match for breg Zecheng Li
2025-08-28  7:18   ` Namhyung Kim
2025-08-28 18:36     ` Zecheng Li
2025-08-30  0:53       ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2025-08-25 19:54 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] perf dwarf-aux: Better variable collection for insn tracking Zecheng Li
2025-08-30  1:22   ` Namhyung Kim
2025-08-25 19:54 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] perf annotate: Skip annotating data types to lea instructions Zecheng Li
2025-08-30  6:41   ` Namhyung Kim
2025-08-25 19:54 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] perf dwarf-aux: Find pointer type to a type Zecheng Li
2025-08-30  6:48   ` Namhyung Kim

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