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From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kas@kernel.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	<x86@kernel.org>, <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Hou Wenlong <houwenlong.hwl@antgroup.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/4] KVM: TDX: Explicitly set user-return MSRs that *may* be clobbered by the TDX-Module
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2025 09:52:26 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aQqt2s/Xv4jtjFFE@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aQo-KhJ9nb0MMAy4@google.com>

On Tue, Nov 04, 2025 at 09:55:54AM -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 04, 2025, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 04, 2025 at 04:40:44PM +0800, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> > > On 11/4/2025 3:06 PM, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > > > Another nit:
> > > > Remove the tdx_user_return_msr_update_cache() in the comment of __tdx_bringup().
> > > > 
> > > > Or could we just invoke tdx_user_return_msr_update_cache() in
> > > > tdx_prepare_switch_to_guest()?
> > > 
> > > No. It lacks the WRMSR operation to update the hardware value, which is the
> > > key of this patch.
> > As [1], I don't think the WRMSR operation to update the hardware value is
> > necessary. The value will be updated to guest value soon any way if
> > tdh_vp_enter() succeeds, or the hardware value remains to be the host value or
> > the default value.
> 
> As explained in the original thread:  
> 
>  : > If the MSR's do not get clobbered, does it matter whether or not they get
>  : > restored.
>  : 
>  : It matters because KVM needs to know the actual value in hardware.  If KVM thinks
>  : an MSR is 'X', but it's actually 'Y', then KVM could fail to write the correct
>  : value into hardware when returning to userspace and/or when running a different
>  : vCPU.
> 
> I.e. updating the cache effectively corrupts state if the TDX-Module doesn't
> clobber MSRs as expected, i.e. if the current value is preserved in hardware.
I'm not against this patch. But I think the above explanation is not that
convincing, (or somewhat confusing).


By "if the TDX-Module doesn't clobber MSRs as expected",
- if it occurs due to tdh_vp_enter() failure, I think it's fine.
  Though KVM thinks the MSR is 'X', the actual value in hardware should be
  either 'Y' (the host value) or 'X' (the expected clobbered value).
  It's benign to preserving value 'Y', no?

- if it occurs due to TDX module bugs, e.g., if after a successful
  tdh_vp_enter() and VM exits, the TDX module clobbers the MSR to 'Z', while
  the host value for the MSR is 'Y' and KVM thinks the actual value is 'X'.
  Then the hardware state will be incorrect after returning to userspace if
  'X' == 'Y'. But this patch can't guard against this condition as well, right?


> > But I think invoking tdx_user_return_msr_update_cache() in
> > tdx_prepare_switch_to_guest() is better than in
> > tdx_prepare_switch_to_host().
> > 
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/aQhJol0CvT6bNCJQ@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com/
> >  

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-05  1:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-30 19:15 [PATCH v5 0/4] KVM: x86: User-return MSR fix+cleanups Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 19:15 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] KVM: TDX: Explicitly set user-return MSRs that *may* be clobbered by the TDX-Module Sean Christopherson
2025-11-03  6:20   ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-04  7:06     ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-04  8:40       ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-11-04  9:31         ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-04 17:55           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-11-05  1:52             ` Yan Zhao [this message]
2025-11-05  9:16               ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-11-06  2:22                 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-03  7:42   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-10-30 19:15 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] KVM: x86: WARN if user-return MSR notifier is registered on exit Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 19:15 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] KVM: x86: Leave user-return notifier registered on reboot/shutdown Sean Christopherson
2025-11-07  8:18   ` Chao Gao
2025-11-08  1:37     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 19:15 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] KVM: x86: Don't disable IRQs when unregistering user-return notifier Sean Christopherson
2025-11-04 10:34   ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-10 15:37 ` [PATCH v5 0/4] KVM: x86: User-return MSR fix+cleanups Sean Christopherson

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