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From: Horst Birthelmer <horst@birthelmer.de>
To: Jingbo Xu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Horst Birthelmer <hbirthelmer@googlemail.com>,
	 Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Horst Birthelmer <hbirthelmer@ddn.com>,
	 syzbot@syzkaller.appspotmail.com
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 0/2] fuse: compound commands
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2025 09:36:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aVON2GgM7KK4oBb_@fedora.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <be2abea2-3834-4029-ba76-e8b338e83415@linux.alibaba.com>

On Mon, Dec 29, 2025 at 02:03:02PM +0800, Jingbo Xu wrote:
> Hi Horst & Bernd,
> 
> On 12/24/25 6:13 AM, Horst Birthelmer wrote:
> > In the discussion about open+getattr here [1] Bernd and Miklos talked
> > about the need for a compound command in fuse that could send multiple
> > commands to a fuse server.
> >     
> > Here's a propsal for exactly that compound command with an example
> > (the mentioned open+getattr).
> >     
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/CAJfpegshcrjXJ0USZ8RRdBy=e0MxmBTJSCE0xnxG8LXgXy-xuQ@mail.gmail.com/
> > 
> 
> To achieve close-to-open, why not just invalidate the cached attr on
> open so that the following access to the attr would trigger a new
> FUSE_GETATTR request to fetch the latest attr from server?
> 

Hi Jingbo,

you are probably right, that it can be achieved that way. I thas some consequences that can be avoided, like having to wait at a later moment for the attributes to be fetched.

The main goal of this patch however was not close-to-open, even though it was discussed in that context.

We can do a lot more with the compounds than just fix close-to-open consistency. As Bernd mentioned, I am very close to havin implemented the fuse_atomic_open() call with compounds, namely the atomic combination of lookup+create.
And there are some more ideas out there.

open+getattr was just the low hanging fruit in this case.

Cheers,
Horst

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-30  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-23 22:13 Horst Birthelmer
2025-12-23 22:13 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/2] fuse: add compound command to combine multiple requests Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-07  1:40   ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-07  9:29     ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-08  1:41       ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-07 14:03     ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-08  1:42       ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-23 22:13 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/2] fuse: add an implementation of open+getattr Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-07  1:46   ` Joanne Koong
2026-01-07  9:03     ` Horst Birthelmer
2025-12-29  6:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 0/2] fuse: compound commands Jingbo Xu
2025-12-29 12:27   ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-30  8:36   ` Horst Birthelmer [this message]
2025-12-30 11:58     ` Jingbo Xu

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