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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH resend 2/2] sched: psi: use rq_clock() during task state changes
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2026 11:34:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYIjpyQCkkxxJZ0s@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260202204137.GK1395266@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Feb 02, 2026 at 09:41:37PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 10:43:17AM -0500, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > In the hottest psi paths, the scheduler already caches the cpu_clock()
> > call for the event in rq->clock. Now that the clocks between state
> > changes and pressure aggregation don't need to be synchronized inside
> > the seqcount section anymore, use the cheaper rq_clock().
> > 
> > Add update_rq_clock() calls to the few places where psi is entered
> > without the rq already locked.
> 
> Just to be clear, rq->clock is not a cache of cpu_clock(). rq->clock
> discards all backwards motion (which obviously should never happen, but
> if it does, the clocks go out of sync).
> 
> So if you use rq->clock, you must use it for all and not mix with
> cpu_clock().
> 
> I *think* the patch does that, but I've not double checked.

Ah no, it does mix them :(

Yeah I'm using rq_clock() consistently on the scheduler side to
accumulate the times of concluded states.

	state_start = rq_clock()
	...
	state_time = rq_clock() - state_start

However, the aggregator side still uses

	state_time += cpu_clock() - state_start

to incorporate currently active state. If they don't have the same
base, this won't work.

Doing the full lock and update_rq_clock() from the aggregator sounds
quite heavy handed. How about using sched_clock_cpu() directly and
doing the backwards motion check by hand?

	local_irq_save()
	now = sched_clock_cpu(cpu)
	local_irq_restore()

	...

	if (state_mask & (1 << s) && now > state_start)
		times[s] += now - state_start

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-03 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-14 15:43 [PATCH resend 1/2] sched: psi: loosen clock sync between scheduler and aggregator Johannes Weiner
2026-01-14 15:43 ` [PATCH resend 2/2] sched: psi: use rq_clock() during task state changes Johannes Weiner
2026-02-02 20:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-03 16:34     ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2026-01-28 10:35 ` [PATCH resend 1/2] sched: psi: loosen clock sync between scheduler and aggregator Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-28 18:56   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-01-28 20:17     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-03 15:38       ` Johannes Weiner
2026-02-03 21:02         ` Johannes Weiner

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