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From: Ben Horgan <ben.horgan@arm.com>
To: Ping Li <leeonion.muyu@gmail.com>, james.morse@arm.com
Cc: reinette.chatre@intel.com, fenghuay@nvidia.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm_mpam: Account for a MBWU overflow before reading the counter value
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2026 15:15:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa7fc5d7-de81-4e40-9b2e-5253f0c7bb02@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a97b8d1c-7fe6-40c4-a145-82f63bd0f6e5@arm.com>

Hi Ping,

On 11/11/2026 15:00, Ben Horgan wrote:
> Hi Ping,
> 
> On 11/11/2026 12:56, Ping Li wrote:
>> From: leeonion.muyu@gmail.com
>>
>> Hi Ben,
>>
>> Thanks for taking a look.
>>
>>> Is the a theoretical fix or has this been observed in practice?
>>
>> Not observed in practice. My hardware team was reviewing the software
>> overflow and NRDY checking logic with me, and we found this while
>> walking through the code together.
>>
>>> Based on this, for MBWU you should only see NRDY set in the
>>> MAX_NRDY_USEC after a change of monitor settings. At such a reset
>>> the VALUE is reset to 0. Are you seeing or potentially seeing an
>>> overflow in this window of time?
>>
>> I agree. Our starting assumption was IHI0099B.d 6.2.1 RGKWNB - that on
>> a settings update the monitor VALUE field keeps counting using the new
>> criteria without automatically resetting to 0. But as you point out,
>> looking at the reconfiguration path in write_msmon_ctl_flt_vals(),
>> the driver deliberately writes VALUE to 0 as part of the IDGYLF
>> sequence, so the accumulated count is discarded there and even a
>> 31-bit monitor cannot overflow within the NRDY window after a
>> reconfiguration. The overflow and NRDY cannot collide.
>>
>> My apologies - there was a second trigger in my original analysis
>> that the commit message failed to mention: any error reading the
>> counter value after the status bit has been cleared loses the
>> accounting the same way, and mpam_msmon_read() does not retry
>> non-EBUSY errors. For a MPAM_F capable MSC, mpam_msc_read_mbwu_l()
>> and mpam_read_monsel_reg() go through the PCC mailbox and can return
>> -ETIMEDOUT or -EIO on transport errors. So I believe the patch still
>> provides protection against this failure path - it moves the
>> accounting to the point where the status bit has been read but not
>> yet cleared, and it is a no-op in the normal path.
> 
> I see. This is a side effect of the recent addition of support for MPAM-Fb (which uses  the PCC
> mailbox). Any error relating to MPAM-Fb is considered as an indication of MPAM being broken and mpam
> is disabled using mpam_fb_disable_mpam(). After this point normal driver behaviour cannot be
> expected. So, if we do hit one of the MPAM-Fb failures then we've already triggered a tear down of
> the driver. Hence, your patch isn't fixing anything that effects the normal operation of the driver.
> 
> Having said that, it is not pretty to rely on the MPAM-Fb failures being catastrophic and makes the
> driver more fragile and difficult to reason about. Jin Jie has a patch [1] which addresses a problem
> related to when control configuration fails due to an MPAM-Fb error. I don't currently intend to
> merge either of these patches as I still think there is likely to be more of the same lurking in the
> driver and I don't want to do this piecemeal. I may take them later though, after I've audited for
> any similar problems; a couple of small changes are worth it for making the driver easier to reason
> about.

Just to clarify, it is still necessary that on any MPAM-Fb failure the error is passed up to resctrl
and then the user when they triggered the request. I will shortly post a small series that fixes
some problems in that area.

Thanks,

Ben

> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20261104101541.563113-1-ruanjinjie@huawei.com/
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ping
> 


      reply	other threads:[~2026-11-11 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-11  7:17 Ping Li
2026-11-11 10:12 ` Ben Horgan
2026-11-11 12:56   ` Ping Li
2026-11-11 15:00     ` Ben Horgan
2026-11-11 15:15       ` Ben Horgan [this message]

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