From: "Zqiang" <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>
To: "KunWu Chan" <kunwu.chan@gmail.com>, paulmck@kernel.org
Cc: jiangshanlai@gmail.com, josh@joshtriplett.org,
rostedt@goodmis.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] srcutree: Add lockdep and early-boot checks to synchronize_srcu_atomic()
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2026 00:12:47 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ab4b7feb3d7ab68ce0de1d1d93d6272b355d7d5d@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN_Opa9v-6Kx2tUFkT4YiOVM_tgZuUVOkbwieOrC6WfbNj_=kA@mail.gmail.com>
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2026 at 2:21 PM Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 12, 2026 at 08:37:33PM +0800, KunWu Chan wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2026 at 12:47 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2026 at 05:35:15PM +0800, Kunwu Chan wrote:
> > > > Add the lockdep annotation, same-type SRCU nesting warning, and
> > > > early-boot check used by __synchronize_srcu().
> > > >
> > > > Suggested-by: Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Kunwu Chan <kunwu.chan@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > Queued for review and testing, thank you both!
> > >
> > > Interestingly enough, it is now the case that there is a grace-period
> > > wait that can be placed in a normal RCU read-side critical section.
> > > Does this mean that we should also adjust the --do-srcu-lockdep testing
> > > in tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/bin/torture.sh?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Paul. Good point.
> > >
> > > I’ll check the current `--do-srcu-lockdep` coverage, including the
> > > case where `synchronize_srcu_atomic()` is called from a normal RCU
> > > read-side critical section, and follow up with the necessary torture
> > > testing changes.
> > >
> > Sounds good!
> >
> > Perhaps you and Zqiang can work together on this. Co-developed-by,
> > for example.
> >
> > Hi, Paul and KunWu
> >
> Hi Zqiang,
>
> Thanks for pointing out these cases.
>
> >
> > Should we also consider the following situations ?
> >
> > idx = srcu_read_lock_atomic(srcu)
> >
> > by interrupt run hardirq context:
> > synchronize_rcu_atomic(srcu)
> >
> > srcu_read_unlock_atomic(srcu, idx)
> >
> For the same-CPU interrupt case, the existing check in
> synchronize_srcu_atomic() already catches it:
>
> synchronize_srcu_atomic(ssp)
> RCU_LOCKDEP_WARN(lockdep_is_held(ssp),
> "Illegal synchronize_srcu_atomic() in same-type SRCU ...");
>
> lockdep_is_held() resolves to __lock_is_held() (lockdep.c:5612),
> which checks current->held_locks[]. The interrupt handler runs with
> the same current, so it sees the SRCU dep_map acquired by
> srcu_read_lock_atomic().
>
> >
> > or:
> >
> > CPU0: CPU1:
> >
> > idx = srcu_read_lock_atomic(srcu)
> >
> > smp_call_function_single(CPU1, som_func, NULL, 1)
> > to send IPI to CPU1, and sync wait complete.
> > hardirq context or ide task context:
> >
> > some_func()
> > ->synchronize_rcu_atomic(srcu)
> >
> > srcu_read_unlock_atomic(srcu, idx)
> >
> The cross-CPU case is different. current->held_locks[] is part of
> struct task_struct (sched.h:1302), so the existing
> __lock_is_held() check can only see the current task's held locks.
> It cannot see the SRCU read-side lock held by the task running on
> another CPU. The same limitation applies to the
> lock_is_held(&rcu_lock_map) check in synchronize_srcu() at
> srcutree.c:1665.
>
> >
> > Add WARN_ON(irqs_disabled()) to synchronize_rcu_atomic() ?
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> WARN_ON(irqs_disabled()) wouldn't help with the cross-CPU case:
> CPU1 could be running in process context with interrupts enabled, so
> the WARN would not trigger. It would also add a false positive for
> legitimate hardirq calls. synchronize_srcu_atomic() omits
> might_sleep() (compare __synchronize_srcu() at srcutree.c:1676)
> because it is designed to work in contexts where sleeping is not
> allowed, including hardirq context.
If runing in hardirq context, we should use raw_spin_lock_irqsave_rcu_node()
and raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore_rcu_node() to replace raw_spin_lock_irq_rcu_node()
and raw_spin_unlock_irq_rcu_node() in synchronize_srcu_atomic().
Thanks
Zqiang
>
> Whether a general cross-CPU read-side-hold check is feasible is an
> open question. It would need to account for the read-side state across
> CPUs without adding too much overhead to the SRCU read-side fast path.
>
> I'm happy to discuss and explore whether there is a reasonable way to
> handle this cross-CPU case.
>
> Thanks,
> Kunwu
>
> >
> > Thanks
> > Zqiang
> >
> > Thanx, Paul
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Kunwu
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanx, Paul
> > >
> > > > ---
> > > > kernel/rcu/srcutree.c | 8 ++++++++
> > > > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c b/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > > > index 6a9c432a3bd0..6c729e805fb3 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/srcutree.c
> > > > @@ -2123,6 +2123,14 @@ void synchronize_srcu_atomic(struct srcu_struct *ssp)
> > > > unsigned long rdm0, rdm1;
> > > > unsigned long unlocks0, unlocks1;
> > > >
> > > > + srcu_lock_sync(&ssp->dep_map);
> > > > +
> > > > + RCU_LOCKDEP_WARN(lockdep_is_held(ssp),
> > > > + "Illegal synchronize_srcu_atomic() in same-type SRCU read-side critical section");
> > > > +
> > > > + if (rcu_scheduler_active == RCU_SCHEDULER_INACTIVE)
> > > > + return;
> > > > +
> > > > // Initialize. Either init_srcu_struct() was invoked or
> > > > // DEFINE_SRCU() or similar was used. Therefore, no allocation
> > > > // will be done here.
> > > > --
> > > > 2.43.0
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-14 0:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-11 9:35 Kunwu Chan
2026-09-11 16:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-12 12:37 ` KunWu Chan
2026-09-12 18:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-13 6:21 ` Zqiang
2026-09-13 10:36 ` KunWu Chan
2026-09-13 18:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-14 2:55 ` KunWu Chan
2026-09-14 0:12 ` Zqiang [this message]
2026-09-14 2:56 ` KunWu Chan
2026-09-13 10:23 ` KunWu Chan
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