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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Zhou Ti (x2019cwm)" <x2019cwm@stfx.ca>,
	Yunfeng Ye <yeyunfeng@huawei.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"rafael@kernel.org" <rafael@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] tick/nohz: Prevent tick_nohz_get_sleep_length() from returning negative value
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 16:26:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ab753f1f-b03d-2a26-a552-b91f98708353@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210316145352.GE639918@lothringen>

On 3/16/2021 3:53 PM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 03:35:37PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 02:37:03PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 01:21:29PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 01:36:59PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>>>>> From: "Zhou Ti (x2019cwm)" <x2019cwm@stfx.ca>
>>>>>
>>>>> If the hardware clock happens to fire its interrupts late, two possible
>>>>> issues can happen while calling tick_nohz_get_sleep_length(). Either:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) The next clockevent device event is due past the last idle entry time.
>>>>>
>>>>> or:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) The last timekeeping update happened before the last idle entry time
>>>>>     and the next timer callback expires before the last idle entry time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Make sure that both cases are handled to avoid returning a negative
>>>>> duration to the cpuidle governors.
>>>> Why? ... and wouldn't it be cheaper the fix the caller to
>>>> check negative once, instead of adding two branches here?
>>> There are already two callers and potentially two return values to check
>>> for each because the function returns two values.
>>>
>>> I'd rather make the API more robust instead of fixing each callers and worrying
>>> about future ones.
>> But what's the actual problem? The Changelog doesn't say why returning a
>> negative value is a problem, and in fact the return value is explicitly
>> signed.
>>
>> Anyway, I don't terribly mind the patch, I was just confused by the lack
>> of actual justification.
> And you're right, the motivation is pure FUD: I don't know exactly
> how the cpuidle governors may react to such negative values and so this
> is just to prevent from potential accident.
>
> Rafael, does that look harmless to you?

No, this is a problem now.  Both governors using this assign the return 
value of it to a u64 var and so negative values confuse them.

That said I think it's better to deal with the issue in the callers.

I can send a patch for that if needed.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-16 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-11 12:36 [PATCH 00/10] tick/nohz updates Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-11 12:36 ` [PATCH 01/10] tick/nohz: Prevent tick_nohz_get_sleep_length() from returning negative value Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-16 12:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-16 13:37     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-16 14:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-16 14:53         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-16 15:26           ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2021-03-16 15:57             ` 回复: " Zhou Ti (x2019cwm)
2021-03-16 16:08               ` Zhou Ti (x2019cwm)
2021-03-16 16:25                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-17 21:49                   ` Zhou Ti (x2019cwm)
2021-03-25 13:14                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-25 18:56                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-03-25 19:18                     ` Zhou Ti (x2019cwm)
2021-03-25 19:50                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-03-25 20:37                         ` Zhou Ti (x2019cwm)
2021-03-26 17:01                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-03-26 17:53                             ` Zhou Ti (x2019cwm)
2021-03-26 18:54                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-03-26 22:53                                 ` Zhou Ti (x2019cwm)
2021-03-29 12:44                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-03-29 14:49                                     ` Zhou Ti (x2019cwm)
2021-03-11 12:37 ` [PATCH 02/10] tick/nohz: Add tick_nohz_full_this_cpu() Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-16 12:28   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-16 13:05     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-11 12:37 ` [PATCH 03/10] tick/nohz: Conditionally restart tick on idle exit Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-11 12:37 ` [PATCH 04/10] tick/nohz: Remove superflous check for CONFIG_VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_NATIVE Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-11 12:37 ` [PATCH 05/10] tick/nohz: Update idle_exittime on actual idle exit Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-11 12:37 ` [PATCH 06/10] timer: Report ignored local enqueue in nohz mode Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-16 15:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-03-25 13:07     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-11 12:37 ` [PATCH 07/10] tick/nohz: Update nohz_full Kconfig help Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-11 12:37 ` [PATCH 08/10] tick/nohz: Only wakeup a single target cpu when kicking a task Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-11 12:37 ` [PATCH 09/10] tick/nohz: Change signal tick dependency to wakeup CPUs of member tasks Frederic Weisbecker
2021-03-11 12:37 ` [PATCH 10/10] tick/nohz: Kick only _queued_ task whose tick dependency is updated Frederic Weisbecker

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