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From: Gutierrez Asier <gutierrez.asier@huawei-partners.com>
To: SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org>
Cc: <artem.kuzin@huawei.com>, <stepanov.anatoly@huawei.com>,
	<wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>, <yanquanmin1@huawei.com>,
	<zuoze1@huawei.com>, <damon@lists.linux.dev>,
	<akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 0/4] mm/damon: Introduce a huge page collapsing mechanism using auto tuning
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2026 22:36:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abc8acca-5145-4c16-aeb7-4127da234a62@huawei-partners.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260612005631.83964-1-sj@kernel.org>

Hi SJ,

On 6/12/2026 3:56 AM, SeongJae Park wrote:
> Hello Asier,
> 
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2026 15:02:40 +0000 <gutierrez.asier@huawei-partners.com> wrote:
> 
>> From: Asier Gutierrez <gutierrez.asier@huawei-partners.com>
>>
>> Overview
>> ========
>>
>> This patch set introduces a new autotuning which allows to collapse
>> hot regions into hugepages.
>>
>> Motivation
>> ==========
>>
>> Since TLB is a bottleneck for many systems[1], a way to optimize TLB
>> misses (or hits) is to use huge pages. Unfortunately, using "always"
>> in THP leads to memory fragmentation and memory waste. For this reason,
>> most application guides and system administrators suggest to disable THP.
>>
>> Currently DAMON has DAMOS_HUGEPAGE, DAMOS_NONHUGEPAGE and DAMOS_COLLAPSE.
>> However, there is no way to tune the settings. It will collapse all the
>> hot regions that meet the access pattern. If the server is a bare metal
>> database or big data server, this will also lead to eventual fragmentation.
>>
>> Additionally, currently THP is set globally. Ideally, there should be a
>> way to control which tasks can use huge pages.
>>
>> Solution
>> ========
>>
>> DAMON has now a way to autotune some of the variables and adjust quotas
>> automatically, so that DAMON is fired only under the right circumstances.
>> It would be nice to have something similar, but for huge pages.
>>
>> A new autotuning quota goal[2], damos_hugepage_mem_bp, is introduced,
>> which checks the huge page consumption to total memory consumption. This
>> new quota mechanism reuses current autotuning architecture.
>>
>> A new module is introduced to demonstrate the use of huge pages
>> collapse autotuning. The goal is to collapse hot regions of a given
>> process into huge pages. The module launches a kdamond thread for a
>> certain task provided by the user through monitored_pid module argument.
>> Hugepage goal autotuning will automatically adjust the aggressiveness
>> of hot region collapses.
>>
>> This module also has a user autotuning knob which allows the user to
>> adjust the aggressiveness of page collapsing.
>>
>> Benchmarks
>> ==========
>>
>> Huge page collapse autotuning was tested in a physicial machine with
>> MariaDB 10.5.29 and sysbench as the benchmark framework.
>>
>> The hugepage module was set up in the following way:
>>
>> # echo 1000 > min_age
>> # echo 1000 > quota_percentage_hugepage
>> # echo $(pidof mariadbd) > monitored_pid
>> # echo on > enabled
>>
>> The goal was to achieve 5% of the total memory used as hugepage.
>> Since the database was not very big, we may not be able to achieve
>> high amount of huge pages per total memory consumption ratio.
>>
>> The table below shows the memory consumption over time. Gaps in the
>> timestamp means that no changes in the hugepage consumption happened
>> over that period of time in MB.
>>
>> +-----------+----------------+----------------+----------------------+
>> | timestamp | total mem used | huge page used | percentage hugepage  |
>> +-----------+----------------+----------------+----------------------+
>> | 0         | 3044.988281    | 0              | 0%                   |
>> | 22        | 3160.207031    | 2              | 0.06%                |
>> | 30        | 3250.90625     | 4              | 0.12%                |
>> | 69        | 3781.238281    | 6              | 0.16%                |
>> | 71        | 3822.226563    | 8              | 0.21%                |
>> | 72        | 3846.578125    | 10             | 0.26%                |
>> | 73        | 3852.402344    | 12             | 0.31%                |
>> | 74        | 3868           | 14             | 0.36%                |
>> | 75        | 3881.84375     | 104            | 2.68%                |
>> | 275       | 4194.175781    | 106            | 2.52%                |
>> +-----------+----------------+----------------+----------------------+
>>
>> After second 275, no more pages are collapsed into hugepages
>>
>> Performance:
>> Baseline -> 18,124.1 transactions per second
>> Hugepage autotune -> 18,163.64 transactions per second
>>
>> TODO
>> ====
>> - Support page splitting for cold hugepages.
>>
>> Patches Sequence
>> ================
>> Patch 1 -> Introduce DAMOS_QUOTA_HUGEPAGE_MEM_BP and autotuning
>> Patch 2 -> Module that demonstrates how to use
>>            DAMOS_QUOTA_HUGEPAGE_MEM_BP and DAMOS_QUOTA_GOAL_TUNER_TEMPORAL
>> Patch 3 -> Support for DAMOS_QUOTA_HUGEPAGE_MEM_BP in sysfs-schemes
>> Patch 4 -> Documentation
>>
>> Changes from previous versions
>> ==============================
>> RFC 3[3] -> RFC 4
>>   - Simplified the module
>>   - Removed unnecessary parameters
>>   - Renamed DAMOS_QUOTA_HUGEPAGE_MEM_BP to unify the
>>     naming style
>>   - Switched to DAMOS_QUOTA_GOAL_TUNER_TEMPORAL
>>   - Updated the documentation
>>   - Removed new interface for context creation with
>>     DAMON_OPS_VADDR
> 
> Thank you for keep revisioning this patch series!
> 
> I think now we are aligned on the overall direction of this series.  Let's add
> the new metrics with the sample module.  The sample module's overall shape and
> size looks reasonable to me.
> 
> So I think now is the time to start making this series be more seriously get
> ready for the landing.  I find some parts in commit messages and cover letter
> that not correctly updated for my feedbacks on last revision.  Particularly
> tests and future work parts,  and sample module name are not addressing my
> previous feedback.  I therefore skipping review of quite details in this
> revision instead of adding same comments again.  That could be ok for early
> stage RFC series, but let's move to the next stage.
> 
> From the next revision, could you please take more time on addressing all my
> previous comments and updating everythings including comments be consistent?
> If you have a reason to keep some of my previous comments not yet addressed for
> the next revision, it is toally fine but please clarify.
> 
> Also, I'm not sure if I asked this same question before, but ...  Could you
> please share your future plans for this specific series?  What change you want
> to further make before dropping RFC?
I will review once again all your comments.

Since we are aligned, I plan to drop the RFC tag for the next revision.

In the future, once this patch set lands in upstream, I plan to submit a new
patch set to add cold page split in the sample module, so that we can have a
full THP support.

Thanks a lot for your patience!

> 
> Thanks,
> SJ
> 
> [...]
> 

-- 
Asier Gutierrez
Huawei


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-12 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-11 15:02 gutierrez.asier
2026-06-11 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/4] mm/damon: Introduce DAMOS_QUOTA_HUGEPAGE " gutierrez.asier
2026-06-11 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/4] mm/damon: introduce DAMON_HUGEPAGE for hot region hugepage collapsing gutierrez.asier
2026-06-12  0:46   ` SeongJae Park
2026-06-12 19:41     ` Gutierrez Asier
2026-06-11 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/4] mm/damon/sysfs: support hugepage_mem_bp quota goal metric gutierrez.asier
2026-06-12  0:31   ` SeongJae Park
2026-06-11 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/4] Documentation/admin-guide/mm/damon: add DAMON-based Hugepage Management gutierrez.asier
2026-06-12  0:33   ` SeongJae Park
2026-06-12 19:38     ` Gutierrez Asier
2026-06-12  0:56 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/4] mm/damon: Introduce a huge page collapsing mechanism using auto tuning SeongJae Park
2026-06-12 19:36   ` Gutierrez Asier [this message]
2026-06-13  0:39     ` SeongJae Park

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