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From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
To: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	"kas@kernel.org" <kas@kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/17] KVM: TDX: Move external page table freeing to TDX code
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2026 10:17:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac3RxN3bSyGcH0JK@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac3RZ+Q2KxfbN3Rn@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>

On Thu, Apr 02, 2026 at 10:16:07AM +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2026 at 08:17:19AM +0800, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> > On Mon, 2026-03-30 at 15:49 +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.c b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.c
> > > > index d064b40a6b31..1346e891ca94 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.c
> > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.c
> > > > @@ -1782,7 +1782,16 @@ static void tdx_sept_free_private_spt(struct kvm
> > > > *kvm, gfn_t gfn,
> > > >   	 */
> > > >   	if (KVM_BUG_ON(is_hkid_assigned(to_kvm_tdx(kvm)), kvm) ||
> > > >   	    tdx_reclaim_page(virt_to_page(sp->external_spt)))
> > > > -		sp->external_spt = NULL;
> > > > +		goto out;
> > > > +
> > > > +	/*
> > > > +	 * Immediately free the S-EPT page as the TDX subsystem doesn't
> > > > support
> > > > +	 * freeing pages from RCU callbacks, and more importantly because
> > > > +	 * TDH.PHYMEM.PAGE.RECLAIM ensures there are no outstanding
> > > > readers.
> > > > +	 */
> > > > +	free_page((unsigned long)sp->external_spt);
> > > Since sp->external_spt is allocated in kvm_mmu_alloc_external_spt() in a
> > > similar
> > > way as sp->spt in tdp_mmu_alloc_sp(), why bother making freeing of
> > > sp->external_spt special? i.e., what's the downside of freeing it together
> > > with
> > > sp->spt in tdp_mmu_free_sp() ?
> > 
> > I agree it's questionable as a cleanup. The change originally came from your
> > comment here actually:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/aYW5CbUvZrLogsWF@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com/
> > 
> > So for a more concrete DPAMT reason. That said I agree the reasoning as a stand
> > alone cleanup is pretty weak. I tried to put a brave face on it.
> > 
> > We have to think if we should try to include it in the initial set or include it
> > with the later DPAMT parts. I thought to try at least to do it earlier and leave
> > it at the end. It also kind of helps to see more of the overhaul together.
> > Thoughts?
> However, even with DPAMT, sp->external_sp is also allocated via
> kvm_mmu_alloc_external_spt().
> 
> static inline void kvm_mmu_alloc_external_spt(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, struct kvm_mmu_page *sp)
> {
>         /*
>          * external_spt is allocated for TDX module to hold private EPT mappings,
>          * TDX module will initialize the page by itself.
>          * Therefore, KVM does not need to initialize or access external_spt.
>          * KVM only interacts with sp->spt for private EPT operations.
>          */
>         sp->external_spt = kvm_mmu_memory_cache_alloc(&vcpu->arch.mmu_external_spt_cache);
> }
> 
> i.e., sp->external_spt is allocated with no difference from sp->spt.
> So, I'm not sure why we have to free it differently.
> What's the benefit of keeping the memory for a little longer than freeing it
Typo: what's the downside

> immediately after TDX RECLAIM?
> 
> Or are you planning to allocate sp->external_spt via a TDX hook?
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-02  2:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-27 20:14 [PATCH 00/17] TDX MMU refactors Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 01/17] x86/tdx: Use pg_level in TDX APIs, not the TDX-Module's 0-based level Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 02/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Update iter->old_spte if cmpxchg64 on mirror SPTE "fails" Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-31  9:47   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-31  9:17     ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31  9:59       ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-31  9:22         ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 10:14           ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 03/17] KVM: TDX: Account all non-transient page allocations for per-TD structures Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 04/17] KVM: x86: Make "external SPTE" ops that can fail RET0 static calls Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 05/17] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Drop zapping KVM_BUG_ON() set_external_spte_present() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 06/17] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Morph the !is_frozen_spte() check into a KVM_MMU_WARN_ON() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  5:00   ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 16:37     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02  1:06       ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02 19:21         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-03  2:47           ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 07/17] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Centralize updates to present external PTEs Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  6:14   ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-01 23:45     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02  1:59       ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02 23:10         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02 23:28           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-03  9:05             ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-04  0:15               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-07  8:34                 ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-07 17:21                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-08  1:23                     ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-03  9:08           ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 10:09   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-01 23:58     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02 23:21       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-01  8:34   ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02 23:46     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-03 10:33       ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-08  1:50         ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-08 10:47   ` Binbin Wu
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 08/17] KVM: TDX: Drop kvm_x86_ops.link_external_spt(), use .set_external_spte() for all Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  6:28   ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 09/17] KVM: TDX: Add helper to handle mapping leaf SPTE into S-EPT Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  6:43   ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-01 23:59     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 10/17] KVM: TDX: Move set_external_spte_present() assert into TDX code Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-31 10:30   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-02  0:00     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-31 10:34   ` Huang, Kai
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 11/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Fold set_external_spte_present() into its sole caller Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-31 10:36   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-01  7:41   ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 12/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Plumb the old_spte into kvm_x86_ops.set_external_spte() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 13/17] KVM: TDX: Hoist tdx_sept_remove_private_spte() above set_private_spte() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-31 10:42   ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-02  0:04     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 14/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Remove KVM_BUG_ON() that checks lock when removing PTs Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  7:01   ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-31 10:46     ` Huang, Kai
2026-04-02  0:08       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02  2:04         ` Yan Zhao
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 15/17] KVM: TDX: Handle removal of leaf SPTEs in .set_private_spte() Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 16/17] KVM: x86: Move error handling inside free_external_spt() Rick Edgecombe
2026-04-09  2:08   ` Binbin Wu
2026-03-27 20:14 ` [PATCH 17/17] KVM: TDX: Move external page table freeing to TDX code Rick Edgecombe
2026-03-30  7:49   ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02  0:17     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-04-02  2:16       ` Yan Zhao
2026-04-02  2:17         ` Yan Zhao [this message]
2026-03-31 11:02   ` Huang, Kai

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