From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Andreas Robinson <andr345@gmail.com>,
sam@ravnborg.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] module, kbuild: Faster boot with custom kernel.
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:59:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac3eb2510902191359o3e32c424h830e78cd0ace446a@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac3eb2510902191248w26f1d1c0o95d68aaa3be097a1@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 21:48, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:41, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:15, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> wrote:
>>> On Thursday 19 February 2009 00:27:58 Kay Sievers wrote:
>>>> some modules wait for 200-500 milliseconds to
>>>> get the lock released, some larger modules spend 50 milliseconds in
>>>> load_module(), many of them around 20 milliseconds.
>>>
>>> OK, this is an untested hack (don't try unloading modules, not sure symbol
>>> resolution isn't racy now I've killed the lock). Does it change the numbers?
>>
>> That changes it dramatically. The numbers from the sycall until the
>> linked-in module are now down to 15-25 milliseconds, and for a few
>> large modules 50-100.
>>
>> (One crazy exception is ipv6, which takes 620 milliseconds to link, no
>> idea what it needs to do.)
>
> Sorry, this was caused by I/O wait from disk for that huge module, and
> gets to reasonable numbers by putting all modules into RAM before
> loading them.
>
>> I'll compare a few bootup times with and without the patch, and come
>> back later today with the real numbers.
>
> The whole massive parallel modprobe happens during udev coldplug. I
> tried a 2GHz Dual Core laptop, and a setup without initramfs here,
> which loads ~40 modules. All the kernel modules are copied to a ramfs
> mount before the coldplug is started.
>
> I measured the time from the first modprobe that happened in the
> kernel to the loading of "dummy", which I manually trigger from the
> udev boot script, and which gets called right after udev has settled
> and handled all events.
>
> With the mutex it takes 1.8 seconds, without it, it takes 1.3 seconds.
> If I comment out the creation of the stop_machine() threads, it gets
> down to 1.1 seconds.
>
> With the mutex, I see code waiting for up to 180 milliseconds waiting
> for the mutex, the average between 20-40 milliseconds.
>
> Without the mutex the largest time to link is 30 milliseconds, and
> most of them are around 5-10 milliseconds.
>
> Without the mutex and the stop_machine() creation, the flow of tracing
> output looks like real work and, depending on the actual module, they
> spend time in various stages of linking, relocation and so on, there
> are no long delays for any of the modules, like I see with the current
> code.
>
> It would be great, if we can safely minimize the time spent in the mutex.
Further testing revealed, if I only comment out the stop_machine()
preparation, which is used in an error case, I get almost the same
improvement, even with the original mutex in place. Without the mutex
it's still a bit better, maybe it would be much better if we have more
CPUs, but all the long delays are gone only with removing the
stop_machine() preparation.
Thanks,
Kay
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-19 22:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-15 18:20 Andreas Robinson
2009-02-15 18:20 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] New option: Static linking of external modules Andreas Robinson
2009-02-15 18:20 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] module: add module ELF section with module_init() pointer Andreas Robinson
2009-02-15 18:20 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] module: always prefix module parameters with the module name Andreas Robinson
2009-02-15 18:20 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] kbuild: allow linking of an external object into vmlinux Andreas Robinson
2009-02-15 18:20 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] scripts: new module preprocessor for static linking Andreas Robinson
2009-02-15 18:20 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] kbuild: enable relinking of vmlinux without full kernel tree Andreas Robinson
2009-02-16 22:51 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] module, kbuild: Faster boot with custom kernel Rusty Russell
2009-02-17 10:42 ` Andreas Robinson
2009-02-17 11:53 ` Kay Sievers
2009-02-18 4:58 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-18 9:15 ` Kay Sievers
2009-02-18 10:25 ` Andreas Robinson
2009-02-20 0:37 ` Andreas Robinson
2009-02-20 1:55 ` Kay Sievers
2009-02-21 11:43 ` Andreas Robinson
2009-03-02 14:32 ` Andreas Robinson
2009-03-02 15:59 ` Kay Sievers
2009-03-02 16:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-02 16:29 ` Kay Sievers
2009-03-02 18:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-02 21:41 ` Andreas Robinson
2009-03-04 18:47 ` Andreas Robinson
2009-03-06 0:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-06 15:15 ` Andreas Robinson
2009-03-06 15:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-08 10:47 ` Andreas Robinson
2009-03-08 16:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-08 20:13 ` [PATCH] sata_nv: add a module parameter to enable async scanning Andreas Robinson
2009-03-09 17:12 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] module, kbuild: Faster boot with custom kernel Will Newton
2009-03-06 7:05 ` fastboot kernel parameter Sitsofe Wheeler
2009-03-06 11:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-24 1:27 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] module, kbuild: Faster boot with custom kernel Rusty Russell
2009-02-18 11:57 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-18 13:57 ` Kay Sievers
2009-02-19 11:15 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-19 11:41 ` Kay Sievers
2009-02-19 20:48 ` Kay Sievers
2009-02-19 21:59 ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2009-02-20 0:58 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-20 1:33 ` Kay Sievers
2009-02-24 1:39 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-20 11:32 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-23 16:42 ` Kay Sievers
2009-02-25 7:03 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-25 18:12 ` Kay Sievers
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