From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] driver-core: devtmpfs - driver core maintained /dev tmpfs
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 17:13:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac3eb2510905070813i3f0cebc2t4685e7186481fb49@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090507144353.GA7603@mit.edu>
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 16:43, Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 11:28:19AM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:17, Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>> > sysfs is slow.
>> > udev is slow.
>>
>> Everything is "slow" if you want to boot "fast". It's just numbers,
>> and this is more about simplicity and reliability, with just the side
>> effect that it's the fastest you can do, when you don't want to lose
>> current functionality.
>
> How much of this is because, say, udev is using shell scripts as
> opposed to C? If the answer is you lose flexibility when you do it as
> shell script fragments, I just spent 30 minutes with Alsadair chewing
> on my ear about how udev's use of shell scripts is making dm/LVM's
> life hard --- and I'll note that if we solve this problem by bloating
> the kernel, you lose flexibility *anyway* since the kernel code will
> be in C and not shell scripts. :-)
Udev does not use any shell scripts besides one for firmware loading
and one composing /dev/disk/by-path/ link names for block devices
without metadata. Both are very simple and cheap, and do not cause any
known problems for anybody.
It's probably not udev's fault, why people chew on your ear. Sorry, I
don't think I can solve that problem. :)
Thanks,
Kay
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-07 15:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-30 13:23 Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 5:29 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 6:17 ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 6:43 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 6:55 ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 7:03 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 10:52 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:38 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-05-01 11:44 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:03 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-01 11:11 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 13:18 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-01 13:24 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 7:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 13:46 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 15:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2009-05-02 15:35 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 18:20 ` Michael Riepe
2009-05-02 19:55 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-02 21:47 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 16:20 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2009-05-04 16:53 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 17:54 ` Michael Riepe
2009-05-04 18:13 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 18:55 ` Michael Riepe
2009-05-04 19:13 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 19:30 ` Greg KH
2009-05-02 1:24 ` Brian Swetland
2009-05-02 1:48 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 2:02 ` Brian Swetland
2009-05-02 2:28 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 4:42 ` Brian Swetland
2009-05-02 13:30 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:01 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-01 11:02 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:16 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 19:26 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 21:59 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 22:21 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 6:57 ` Chris Wedgwood
2009-05-01 14:01 ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 15:43 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 16:04 ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 21:13 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 15:53 ` Chris Wedgwood
2009-05-01 16:09 ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 16:17 ` Chris Wedgwood
2009-05-01 10:19 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 11:13 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 12:38 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 13:12 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-02 15:03 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-05-01 14:55 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-01 11:59 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 7:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 11:34 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 20:22 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-02 21:39 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 22:04 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-03 7:29 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-05-02 21:41 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-02 21:54 ` Greg KH
2009-05-02 21:59 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 16:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-02 17:57 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-06 12:56 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-07 1:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-07 2:08 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-07 2:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-07 2:40 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-14 9:28 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 8:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-07 9:28 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-07 14:43 ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-07 15:13 ` Kay Sievers [this message]
2009-05-10 0:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-10 0:56 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-10 2:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
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