From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756496Ab0CCUDm (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:03:42 -0500 Received: from mail-fx0-f219.google.com ([209.85.220.219]:48774 "EHLO mail-fx0-f219.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756474Ab0CCUDg convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:03:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20100302230933.GA32287@kroah.com> <1267572541-410-19-git-send-email-gregkh@suse.de> From: Kay Sievers Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:03:19 -1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/62] Driver-Core: devtmpfs - remove EXPERIMENTAL and enable it by default To: Linus Torvalds Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 06:46, Linus Torvalds wrote: > Greg, please shut down people like Kay that want to enable something by > default. We want a _minimal_  working config, not a maximal. If somebody > has a distro that needs this, they can enable it _then_. Not "let's try to > make people enable it whether they need it or not, because they _might_". > > Because "might need it" is simply not good enough. A "must have" is the > only reason to do 'default y'. No problem, if that's he rule, then let's drop the "y". I always understood the defaults as the "usually needed to bring up a box" setting. We had this discussion already with Arjan who stated the same as you, but we kid of missed to take action on that, sorry. For the "must have", we will not be able to bootup the upcoming Ubuntu and openSUSE development distros without it, not sure about Fedora, the support is there, but it might still work without it. Some smaller distros also already depend on it. Thanks, Kay