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From: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	WangYuli <wangyuli@uniontech.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH] fs/pipe: Introduce a check to skip sleeping processes during pipe read/write
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 17:45:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <addb53ac-2f46-45db-83ce-c6b28e40d831@colorfullife.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241228152229.GC5302@redhat.com>

Hi Oleg,

On 12/28/24 4:22 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 12/28, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>>   int __wake_up(struct wait_queue_head *wq_head, unsigned int mode,
>>>   	      int nr_exclusive, void *key)
>>>   {
>>> +	if (list_empty(&wq_head->head)) {
>>> +		struct list_head *pn;
>>> +
>>> +		/*
>>> +		 * pairs with spin_unlock_irqrestore(&wq_head->lock);
>>> +		 * We actually do not need to acquire wq_head->lock, we just
>>> +		 * need to be sure that there is no prepare_to_wait() that
>>> +		 * completed on any CPU before __wake_up was called.
>>> +		 * Thus instead of load_acquiring the spinlock and dropping
>>> +		 * it again, we load_acquire the next list entry and check
>>> +		 * that the list is not empty.
>>> +		 */
>>> +		pn = smp_load_acquire(&wq_head->head.next);
>>> +
>>> +		if(pn == &wq_head->head)
>>> +			return 0;
>>> +	}
>> Too subtle for me ;)
>>
>> I have some concerns, but I need to think a bit more to (try to) actually
>> understand this change.
> If nothing else, consider
>
> 	int CONDITION;
> 	wait_queue_head_t WQ;
>
> 	void wake(void)
> 	{
> 		CONDITION = 1;
> 		wake_up(WQ);
> 	}
>
> 	void wait(void)
> 	{
> 		DEFINE_WAIT_FUNC(entry, woken_wake_function);
>
> 		add_wait_queue(WQ, entry);
> 		if (!CONDITION)
> 			wait_woken(entry, ...);
> 		remove_wait_queue(WQ, entry);
> 	}
>
> this code is correct even if LOAD(CONDITION) can leak into the critical
> section in add_wait_queue(), so CPU running wait() can actually do
>
> 		// add_wait_queue
> 		spin_lock(WQ->lock);
> 		LOAD(CONDITION);	// false!
> 		list_add(entry, head);
> 		spin_unlock(WQ->lock);
>
> 		if (!false)		// result of the LOAD above
> 			wait_woken(entry, ...);
>
> Now suppose that another CPU executes wake() between LOAD(CONDITION)
> and list_add(entry, head). With your patch wait() will miss the event.
> The same for __pollwait(), I think...
>
> No?

Yes, you are right.

CONDITION =1 is worst case written to memory from the store_release() in 
spin_unlock().

this pairs with the load_acquire for spin_lock(), thus LOAD(CONDITION) 
is safe.

It could still work for prepare_to_wait and thus fs/pipe, since then the 
smb_mb() in set_current_state prevents earlier execution.


--

     Manfred


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-12-28 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-25  9:42 WangYuli
2024-12-25 13:30 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-12-25 13:53   ` Kent Overstreet
2024-12-25 16:04     ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-12-25 16:32       ` Kent Overstreet
2024-12-25 17:22         ` Mateusz Guzik
2024-12-25 17:41           ` Kent Overstreet
2024-12-25 15:42   ` WangYuli
2024-12-25 16:00     ` Willy Tarreau
2024-12-25 16:32       ` WangYuli
2024-12-25 16:56         ` Willy Tarreau
2024-12-26 16:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-26 19:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-12-26 20:11   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-26 20:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-12-26 20:57       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-27 15:54         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-27 16:43           ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-27 18:39     ` Manfred Spraul
2024-12-28 14:32       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-28 15:22         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-28 16:32           ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-28 18:53             ` Manfred Spraul
2024-12-29 11:54               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-28 16:45           ` Manfred Spraul [this message]
2024-12-29 11:57             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-29 12:41               ` Manfred Spraul
2024-12-29 13:05                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-29 13:13                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-29 19:54                     ` Manfred Spraul
2024-12-30 15:38                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-31 11:14                         ` Manfred Spraul
2024-12-31 19:38                           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-12-31 20:24                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-12-31 22:31                               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-01-02 13:57                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-04 21:15                         ` RFC: Checkpatch: Introduce list of functions that need memory barriers Manfred Spraul

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