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From: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
To: Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Avoid divide by zero when rebalancing domains
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 13:58:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adfca8d9-2fc1-744d-ec03-49788c5b3aa2@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180817102734.GA4253@codeblueprint.co.uk>

Hi,

On 17/08/18 11:27, Matt Fleming wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jul, at 05:54:02PM, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>> On 05/07/18 14:27, Matt Fleming wrote:
>>> On Thu, 05 Jul, at 11:10:42AM, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 04/07/18 15:24, Matt Fleming wrote:
>>>>> It's possible that the CPU doing nohz idle balance hasn't had its own
>>>>> load updated for many seconds. This can lead to huge deltas between
>>>>> rq->avg_stamp and rq->clock when rebalancing, and has been seen to
>>>>> cause the following crash:
>>>>>
>>>>>  divide error: 0000 [#1] SMP
>>>>>  Call Trace:
>>>>>   [<ffffffff810bcba8>] update_sd_lb_stats+0xe8/0x560
>>
>> My confusion comes from not seeing where that crash happens. Would you mind
>> sharing the associated line number? I can feel the "how did I not see this"
>> from there but it can't be helped :(
> 
> The divide by zero comes from scale_rt_capacity() where 'total' is a
> u64 but gets truncated when passed to div_u64() since the divisor
> parameter is u32.
> 

Ah, nasty one. Interestingly enough that bit has been changed quite recently,
so I don't think you can get a div by 0 in there anymore - see
523e979d3164 ("sched/core: Use PELT for scale_rt_capacity()") and subsequent
cleanups.

> Sure, you could use div64_u64() instead, but the real issue is that
> the load hasn't been updated for a very long time and that we're
> trying to balance the domains with stale data.
> 

Yeah I agree with that. However, the problem is with cpu_load - blocked load
on nohz CPUs will be periodically updated until entirely decayed. And if we
end up getting rid of cpu_load (depends on how [1] goes), then there's
nothing left to do. But we're not there yet...

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20180809135753.21077-1-dietmar.eggemann@arm.com/

      reply	other threads:[~2018-08-17 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-04 14:24 Matt Fleming
2018-07-05  8:02 ` [lkp-robot] [sched/fair] fbd5188493: WARNING:inconsistent_lock_state kernel test robot
2018-07-05  8:58   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-07-05  9:52     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-07-05 13:24       ` Matt Fleming
2018-07-05 14:43         ` Matt Fleming
2018-07-05 14:59         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-07-05 10:10 ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Avoid divide by zero when rebalancing domains Valentin Schneider
2018-07-05 13:27   ` Matt Fleming
2018-07-05 16:54     ` Valentin Schneider
2018-08-17 10:27       ` Matt Fleming
2018-08-17 12:58         ` Valentin Schneider [this message]

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