From: Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>
To: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
pabeni@redhat.com, michael.chan@broadcom.com,
pavan.chebbi@broadcom.com, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch,
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almasrymina@google.com, sdf@fomichev.me, leitao@debian.org,
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bobbyeshleman@meta.com, daniel@iogearbox.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v4 0/5] net: devmem: size TX net_iovs from the dmabuf layout
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2026 16:20:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ae6f0971-d308-4c05-acc8-a1b16b29fa29@blackwall.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261111224740.2744522-1-sdf@fomichev.me>
On 12/11/2026 00:47, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> TX bindings use PAGE_SIZE net_iovs, so a frag covers at most a page.
> A 64KB skb needs 16 frags, and MAX_SKB_FRAGS caps devmem skbs at about
> 68KB, which makes BIG TCP ineffective for devmem TX.
>
> This series picks the TX net_iov size from the dmabuf sg table instead:
> the largest power of 2, up to 2MB, which aligns every DMA segment. With
> a 2MB hugepage-backed udmabuf a BIG TCP skb takes a few frags. There's
> no UAPI change since TX addresses are dmabuf offsets.
>
> This doesn't make skbs larger. TCP still sizes them with size_goal.
> Only the frags get larger, and a single frag can now cover the whole
> skb.
>
> An skb stays under 64KB unless BIG TCP is enabled. With BIG TCP,
> MSG_ZEROCOPY from huge pages can already create frags of 64KB or
> more. So drivers already have to handle them:
> - mlx5 has a 31-bit length per data segment
> - gve splits frags into 16KB descriptors
> - fbnic doesn't enable BIG TCP
> - bnxt has a 16-bit BD length. It is broken for such page frags today
> and will be fixed separately.
>
> Tested on two mlx5 400Gb/s hosts with kperf (udmabuf, 32KB RX
> net_iovs, 2MB hugepage-backed TX buffer), series backported to a 7.1
> kernel on the sender only. 1 flow, MTU 4200, receiver tcp_rmem capped
> at 16MB so it doesn't drop, median of 5 x 60s runs:
>
> before after
> frags per skb (sender) 16-17 1-2
> throughput (Gb/s) 208.6 211.2
> sender sendmsg CPU (sys) 40.8% 19.5% (-52%)
>
> The receiver's CPU is the bottleneck, so the gain is CPU, not
> throughput. More of the transmit runs from the ACK path, so the
> sender's softirq grows (52% -> 59%), but sys + sirq still drops by 16%.
>
> kperf output (sender side) of runs near the median, before:
>
> client: == Source <sender>
> client: Tx213.826 Gbps (1603901849600 bytes in 60007723 usec)
> client: Rx 0.000 Gbps (0 bytes in 60007723 usec)
> client: TCP retrans reord rtt rttvar d_ce snd_wnd cwnd
> client: 0 0 633 2 0 15556608 7657
> client: net CPU 49: usr: 0.01% sys: 0.10% idle:44.13% iow: 0.00% irq: 3.21% sirq:52.53%
> client: app CPU 50: usr: 0.05% sys:41.55% idle:53.88% iow: 0.00% irq: 1.40% sirq: 3.10%
>
> after:
>
> client: == Source <sender>
> client: Tx211.242 Gbps (1584440279040 bytes in 60004741 usec)
> client: Rx 0.000 Gbps (0 bytes in 60004741 usec)
> client: TCP retrans reord rtt rttvar d_ce snd_wnd cwnd
> client: 0 0 556 3 0 15499264 7650
> client: net CPU 13: usr: 0.01% sys: 0.08% idle:37.75% iow: 0.00% irq: 3.87% sirq:58.26%
> client: app CPU 14: usr: 0.06% sys:19.48% idle:77.23% iow: 0.00% irq: 1.19% sirq: 2.02%
>
> The bnxt patch was tested on two 50Gb/s bnxt hosts with
> CONFIG_MAX_SKB_FRAGS=45. With the default of 17 its check compiles
> out. ncdevmem sending 1KB chunks builds skbs with up to 45 frags. The
> stack segments them and the data arrives intact.
>
> Patches:
> - 1: bnxt: segment GSO skbs with too many frags in the stack
> - 2-3: devmem TX prep (truesize, niov_shift in the TX lookup)
> - 4: pick the TX net_iov size from the sg table
> - 5: selftest for TX from a hugepage-backed dmabuf
>
> v4:
> - drop the per-device frag size limit and the bnxt, fbnic and mlx5
> patches. Drivers already have to handle large page frags (Jakub).
>
> v3: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20261105222058.944293-1-sdf@fomichev.me/
> - default the netmem TX frag size limit to PAGE_SIZE, opt in bnxt,
> fbnic and mlx5 (Mina)
>
> v2: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20261103235152.1904727-1-sdf@fomichev.me/
> - reword the TX truesize commit message (Mina)
> - explain why the TX net_iov size ignores the device limit (Mina)
> - use 1 flow results in the cover letter (Mina)
>
> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20261102191438.1059771-1-sdf@fomichev.me/
>
> Stanislav Fomichev (5):
> bnxt_en: let the stack segment GSO skbs with too many frags
> net: devmem: charge the frag length to TX skb truesize
> net: devmem: use niov_shift in net_devmem_get_niov_at()
> net: devmem: size TX net_iovs from the dmabuf sg table
> selftests: drv-net: devmem: TX from a hugepage-backed dmabuf
>
> drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bnxt/bnxt.c | 5 +++
> net/core/datagram.c | 2 +-
> net/core/devmem.c | 36 +++++++++++++---
> net/core/netdev-genl.c | 2 +-
> .../selftests/drivers/net/hw/devmem.py | 10 ++++-
> .../selftests/drivers/net/hw/devmem_lib.py | 43 +++++++++++++++++--
> .../selftests/drivers/net/hw/ncdevmem.c | 8 +++-
> .../selftests/drivers/net/hw/nk_devmem.py | 11 ++++-
> 8 files changed, 101 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
>
Nice, I also tested it with netkit and TXed a 2MB net_iov size.
For the set:
Tested-by: Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>
Reviewed-by: Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>
Thanks,
Nik
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-13 14:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-11 22:47 Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-11 22:47 ` [PATCH net-next v4 1/5] bnxt_en: let the stack segment GSO skbs with too many frags Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-12 22:48 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-11 22:47 ` [PATCH net-next v4 2/5] net: devmem: charge the frag length to TX skb truesize Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-12 22:48 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-11 22:47 ` [PATCH net-next v4 3/5] net: devmem: use niov_shift in net_devmem_get_niov_at() Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-13 12:05 ` Breno Leitao
2026-11-11 22:47 ` [PATCH net-next v4 4/5] net: devmem: size TX net_iovs from the dmabuf sg table Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-12 22:49 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-13 12:10 ` Breno Leitao
2026-11-13 12:20 ` Breno Leitao
2026-11-11 22:47 ` [PATCH net-next v4 5/5] selftests: drv-net: devmem: TX from a hugepage-backed dmabuf Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-12 22:49 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-11-13 12:21 ` Breno Leitao
2026-11-12 8:25 ` [PATCH net-next v4 0/5] net: devmem: size TX net_iovs from the dmabuf layout Paolo Abeni
2026-11-12 23:00 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-13 0:41 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2026-11-13 2:41 ` Mina Almasry
2026-11-13 14:20 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov [this message]
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