From: "Magnus Damm" <magnus.damm@gmail.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: "Magnus Damm" <magnus@valinux.co.jp>,
fastboot@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Fastboot] [PATCH 00/03] kexec: Avoid overwriting the current pgd (V2)
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:29:00 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aec7e5c30605250029jfab09e4y26556abf8f16628d@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m17j4aso43.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
On 5/25/06, Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> Magnus Damm <magnus@valinux.co.jp> writes:
>
> > Hi Eric,
> >
> > On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 20:56 -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >>
> >> C code is much more accessible to other programmers than arch specific
> >> assembly. The code on the control page was almost written in C, and
> >> I'm still not quite convinced that it would be wrong to do that.
> >
> > I agree with you that it is of course better to implement something in C
> > if possible compared to writing it in architecture-specific assembly.
> >
> > But I do not agree that wrapping architecture-specific assembly code in
> > C functions makes the code more understandable. I'd really like to meet
> > the kernel hacker that is aware of how x86 segmentation works but is
> > unable to read x86 assembly.
>
> For some young programmers it may be a matter of reading ability.
> For older programmers it is more likely to be a matter of reading
> speed.
>
> Regardless that is how the code is now, and how it came out of the series
> of code reviews I had to go through when I wrote it. I had requests
> to do more in C and I never had a request to do more in assembly.
> Proving there was no sane way to write the control code page in
> C was actually difficult.
Consider this a "more assembly" request then. What about these reasons:
- C code requires a stack
You must access one page only and therefore you need to setup the
stackpointer somewhere. Requires assembly.
- We switch to a new page table, twice on x86_64
Requires assembly.
- Need to setup segment registeres and cr*
Requires assembly.
- You need to setup/clear registers before passing control
Requires assembly.
> If there is a legitimate reason to change the code that is fine. But
> as it looked as simply a change without a good reason that is not
> fine.
We would have to duplicate the segment handling code in our xen port
otherwise. It's no biggie, it's just a matter of a few lines of code.
Also, I feel that my approach with a valid idt and gdt is more robust.
> The big problem was you did several things with a single patch,
> and that made the review much more difficult than it had to be.
>
> Having to check if you correctly modified the page tables, while also
> having to check for segmentation, and the interrupt descriptor
> transformations was distracting.
Let me know which parts you think are good and we will implement and
review them bit by bit instead then.
Thanks,
/ magnus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-25 7:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-24 4:40 Magnus Damm
2006-05-24 4:40 ` [PATCH 01/03] kexec: Avoid overwriting the current pgd (V2, stubs) Magnus Damm
2006-05-25 2:41 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-25 3:45 ` Magnus Damm
2006-05-25 4:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-25 7:11 ` Magnus Damm
2006-05-25 16:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-26 2:23 ` Magnus Damm
2006-05-24 4:40 ` [PATCH 02/03] kexec: Avoid overwriting the current pgd (V2, i386) Magnus Damm
2006-05-24 22:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2006-05-25 2:14 ` Magnus Damm
2006-05-25 2:18 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-25 2:38 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-24 4:40 ` [PATCH 03/03] kexec: Avoid overwriting the current pgd (V2, x86_64) Magnus Damm
2006-05-25 2:50 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-25 8:26 ` Magnus Damm
2006-05-25 15:21 ` Vivek Goyal
2006-05-26 10:42 ` Magnus Damm
2006-05-26 15:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2006-05-26 15:52 ` Magnus Damm
2006-05-25 16:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-26 3:17 ` Magnus Damm
2006-05-26 16:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-29 8:40 ` Magnus Damm
2006-05-31 17:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2006-05-26 7:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2006-05-26 9:02 ` Magnus Damm
2006-05-26 9:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-26 9:29 ` Magnus Damm
2006-05-24 22:56 ` [PATCH 00/03] kexec: Avoid overwriting the current pgd (V2) Vivek Goyal
2006-05-25 2:09 ` Magnus Damm
2006-05-25 2:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-25 3:30 ` Magnus Damm
2006-05-25 4:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-25 7:29 ` Magnus Damm [this message]
2006-05-25 16:40 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-26 1:57 ` Magnus Damm
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