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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 5.16-rc1
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 15:07:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <af4fd590c7b90e5b3eef13f2fcd0bbb500192d2a.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjiTXOy3EJ4Eb++umuCgiDufJxrNZ9Z17_NhdORKZGbSA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2021-11-19 at 11:29 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 10:20 AM James Bottomley
> <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com> wrote:
> > Six fixes, five in drivers (ufs, qla2xxx, iscsi) and one core
> > change to fix a regression in user space device state setting,
> > which is used by the iscsi daemons to effect device recovery.
> 
> Language nit.

hey your "nit" is that I used an English verb correctly?

> One of the few correct uses of "to effect" - but perhaps best avoided
> just because even native speakers get it wrong. And we have a lot of
> non-native speakers too.

Well, OK, we do the difference between effect and affect in high
school, but I'm happy to use a more neutral phrasing because I do
notice when people get it wrong (I just silently correct internally).

> It might have been clearer to just say "to start device recovery" or
> perhaps just "as part of device recovery". Just to avoid confusion
> with "affect". Which it obviously _also_ does.
> 
> I kept your wording, but this is just a note that maybe commit
> messages should strive to generally use fairly basic English language
> and try to avoid things that are known to trip people up.

I can certainly relate to the need to be clear and unambiguous, but
this is the thin end of the wedge: you'll be telling me I can't use the
subjunctive mood next just because Americans don't understand what it
is ...

James



  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-19 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-19 18:20 James Bottomley
2021-11-19 19:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-11-19 20:07   ` James Bottomley [this message]
2021-11-19 20:41     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-11-19 20:42       ` James Bottomley
2021-11-19 19:46 ` pr-tracker-bot
2021-11-27 14:11 James Bottomley
2021-11-27 19:47 ` pr-tracker-bot

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