From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752885Ab1LDAQE (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Dec 2011 19:16:04 -0500 Received: from web244.extendcp.co.uk ([79.170.40.244]:51872 "EHLO web244.extendcp.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752479Ab1LDAQB (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Dec 2011 19:16:01 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 2693 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 19:15:59 EST To: VDR User Subject: Re: [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device - is it ok to NACK driver because of worrying about possible =?UTF-8?Q?misusage=3F?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 23:30:49 +0000 From: Walter Van Eetvelt Cc: Andreas Oberritter , Alan Cox , HoP , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , , In-Reply-To: References: <4ED6C5B8.8040803@linuxtv.org> <4ED75F53.30709@redhat.com> <20111202231909.1ca311e2@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <4EDA4AB4.90303@linuxtv.org> Message-ID: User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 09:21:23 -0800, VDR User wrote: ... > So you could finally use VDR as a server/client setup using vtuner, > right? With full OSD, timer, etc? Yes, I'm aware that streamdev > exists. It was horrible when I tried it last (a long time ago) and I > understand it's gotten better. But it's not a suitable replacement for > a real server/client setup. It sounds like using vtuner, this would > finally be possible and since Klaus has no intention of ever > modernizing VDR into server/client (that I'm aware of), it's also the > only suitable option as well. > > Or am I wrong about anything? If not, I know several users who would > like to use this, myself included. This is the question on how you provide (live)tv content to multiple users and devices. And I think this goes beyond the simple "second PC in the house" where you want to watch TV or recordings. How can you watch streams from your DVB device on your small screen Mobile phone/tablet? Or stream over the internet and watch your last night recording when commuting in the train? Some commercial solutions are already available for some scenario's. Also free software solutions support for some scenario's, but I think still too limited. With that in mind, for me the future is for a client server combination that can do proper live TV and recording streaming. And technically, a virtual driver is not bringing better user experience in the long term I think. On the contrary, some users would use the vtunerc to fill in some of their needs. This could bring developers to work less on client/server application supporting a broader range of use cases. Walter