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From: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
To: Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>
Cc: Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,  tj@kernel.org, cl@gentwo.org,
	mhocko@suse.com, vbabka@kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	 Kaitao Cheng <chengkaitao@kylinos.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/percpu: Preserve NOFS/NOIO scope during chunk create and populate
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2026 14:46:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ah7eYOb5YU0Jhs-Y@pedro-suse.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ahrm4x2ubbjs4An1@palisades.local>

On Sat, May 30, 2026 at 03:32:19PM +0200, Dennis Zhou wrote:
<snip>
> > 
> > I’ll try to do it.
> > 
> > Following your suggestion, including in [PATCH 2/2], I will also try a
> > different approach and fix the issue by reducing the scope of the
> > pcpu_alloc_mutex critical section.
> > 
> 
> No please don't. The point of the percpu mutex is to ensure that only
> one person is ever possibly creating a new chunk. If you drop the mutex,
> then you have to deal with concurrent callers when available percpu
> memory is low. Percpu memory is expensive and unmovable so the cost is
> in the control plane to avoid excess fragmentation.

And so is slab memory, yet this is not a problem. We shouldn't keep
problematic locks just because they may aid fragmentation slightly.


-- 
Pedro

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-02 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-28 13:29 [PATCH 0/2] mm/percpu: Fix possible NOFS/NOIO reclaim recursion Kaitao Cheng
2026-05-28 13:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/percpu: Preserve NOFS/NOIO scope during chunk create and populate Kaitao Cheng
2026-05-29  9:25   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-05-29  9:38     ` Pedro Falcato
2026-05-30 12:47       ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-05-30 13:32         ` Dennis Zhou
2026-06-01  2:27           ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-06-01 15:45             ` Michal Hocko
2026-06-02  3:03               ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-06-02  7:16                 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-02  8:05                   ` Michal Hocko
2026-06-02  9:02                     ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-06-02  7:17                 ` Michal Hocko
2026-06-02 13:46           ` Pedro Falcato [this message]
2026-05-28 13:29 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/percpu: Avoid pcpu_alloc_mutex recursion from reclaim Kaitao Cheng
2026-05-29  9:34   ` Pedro Falcato
2026-05-28 21:09 ` [PATCH 0/2] mm/percpu: Fix possible NOFS/NOIO reclaim recursion Andrew Morton
2026-05-28 21:10 ` Andrew Morton

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