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RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_BLOCKED_OPENRESOLVER(0.00)[2a07:de40:b281:106:10:150:64:167:received]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[suse.de:+]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; DBL_BLOCKED_OPENRESOLVER(0.00)[imap1.dmz-prg2.suse.org:helo,imap1.dmz-prg2.suse.org:rdns,suse.de:dkim] X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd2.dmz-prg2.suse.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E5F916ACDA X-Spam-Score: -2.51 On Tue, Jun 02, 2026 at 04:37:14PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote: > On Tue, Jun 02, 2026 at 10:46:35AM +0800, Lance Yang wrote: > > > > > > On 2026/6/2 10:15, Barry Song wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 9:46 AM wangtao wrote: > > > [...] > > > > > > > > You said discussion was welcome, yet when someone offered even a > > > > small comment, you refused to continue the discussion. > > > > > > > > If I had known you would be this inconsistent, I would not have > > > > replied to you in the first place. > > > > > > > > This will be my last reply to you. I will not respond again. > > > > > > > > > > Hi Tao, > > > > > > Please don't walk away from the linux-mm community. I read your > > > patchset and found it quite valuable. It not only reduces memory > > > overhead, but also eliminates rmap costs for exclusive folios. > > > > > > Since I'm not very confident discussing technical topics in English, > > > I wrote a blog post in Chinese about your patchset: > > > > > > https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/k00tzhTl8HbL3k4G6ev4SA > > > > > > I have to admit that I found the implementation quite complex and > > > in need of significant improvement. However, I think the underlying > > > idea is very interesting and worth exploring further. > > > > > > I'm looking forward to seeing a v2 RFC with a cleaner and simpler > > > implementation while preserving the core concept. > > > > > > Regardless of whether it ultimately gets merged, I hope the discussion > > > can continue. > > > > Same here :) > > > > Tao, please don't let this thread get you down. No first RFC is > > perfect, and the idea still looks worth discussing :) > > > > Thanks for working on this! > > Guys, this isn't helpful. > > We aren't extending anon_vma, and I am working on replacing it, that's the > bottom line. > > I have presented compelling evidence suggesting this is AI generated. In > response I got more AI-generated nonsense. There's no trust, the code and > analysis are all wrong, end of discussion. 100% agree. I think plenty of technical/process/etc reasons as to why this idea/contribution is not mergeable have been listed. Overriding this with "keep it up!!!111!11!!" is not helpful. -- Pedro