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From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"Hyunwoo Kim" <imv4bel@gmail.com>,
	"Tom Lendacky" <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	"Jörg Rödel" <joro@8bytes.org>, "Fuad Tabba" <tabba@google.com>,
	"Ackerley Tng" <ackerleytng@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 18/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Combine .gmem_prepare()+.gmem_invalidate() into .gmem_convert()
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 15:52:54 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alc8Vi9yNIFR/yGE@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260709204948.1988414-19-seanjc@google.com>

Sorry, I just noticed this patch.
Though it may be too late, I have some questions that have been puzzling me for
a while :)

On Thu, Jul 09, 2026 at 01:49:48PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> Smush guest_memfd's prepare() and invalidate() hooks into a common
> convert() flow, as they are effectively two sides of the same coin: they're
> invoked when private/shared memory is about to made accessible visible to
> the guest/host.  I.e. prepare() is really "make private", and invalidate()
> is really "make shared".
> 
> Using a single API fixes the wart where invalidate() isn't actually doing
> invalidation, avoids adding yet another gmem Kconfig, avoids having to come
> up with a name to describe the "make shared" behavior, and will yield more
> intuitive code when in-place conversion comes along.
This is reasonable for SEV-SNP, and there is no functional change.

> @@ -802,7 +801,7 @@ int kvm_gmem_get_pfn(struct kvm *kvm, struct kvm_memory_slot *slot,
>  		folio_mark_uptodate(folio);
>  	}
>  
> -	r = kvm_gmem_prepare_folio(kvm, slot, gfn, folio);
> +	r = kvm_gmem_make_private(kvm, slot, gfn, folio);
What puzzles me is that kvm_gmem_get_pfn() can be invoked to fault in pages for
gmem-only slots in normal VMs, where kvm_arch_has_private_mem() == false.

Would it be odd to invoke .gmem_convert() with to_private being true in such
VMs? Or do you plan to add something similar to the following in the future?
        if (kvm_gmem_is_private_mem(inode, index))
	     r = kvm_gmem_make_private(kvm, slot, gfn, folio);
	else
	     r = kvm_gmem_make_shared(kvm, slot, gfn, folio);

Otherwise, would it look asymmetric with just:
        if (kvm_gmem_is_private_mem(inode, index))
	     r = kvm_gmem_make_private(kvm, slot, gfn, folio);
in kvm_gmem_get_pfn()?

Asking this also because there is a .gmem_convert() for TDX huge pages [1].
In [1], .gmem_convert() is invoked to emulate a to-shared conversion in
kvm_gmem_punch_hole(). However, the per-gmem memory attribute for the range to
convert may not be shared after the punch hole. Is it acceptable?
(To me, the .gmem_convert() in [1] behaves more like .gmem_prezap()).

Additionally, would the .gmem_convert() to shared in punch hole be duplicated
with the one in kvm_gmem_free_folio() when CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_ARCH_GMEM_RECLAIM is
true?

So, I'm writing to understand your considerations behind this for our future
direction.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260129011517.3545883-44-seanjc@google.com

>  	folio_unlock(folio);
>  
> -- 
> 2.55.0.795.g602f6c329a-goog
> 
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-15  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-09 20:49 [PATCH v4 00/18] KVM: SEV: Fix RMP #PF due to freeing in-use VMSA Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 01/18] KVM: SEV: Track the GPA of the guest-controlled VMSA used for SNP guests Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 02/18] KVM: SEV: Extract loading of guest-provided VMSA to a separate helper Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 03/18] KVM: SEV: Mark vCPU RUNNABLE after AP_CREATE, even if VMSA is unusable Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 04/18] KVM: SEV: Wire up kvm_x86_ops.gmem_xxx() if and only if CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV=y Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10  0:11   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-10  0:25     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 05/18] KVM: x86: Serialize writes to disabled_quirks using kvm->lock Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 06/18] KVM: x86: Ensure runtime reads of disabled_quirks are resolved once Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 07/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Fold kvm_mmu_zap_memslot() into kvm_arch_flush_shadow_memslot() Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 08/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Split kvm_mmu_zap_all_fast() into "front" and "back" halves Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 09/18] KVM: x86/mmu: Use split "zap all fast" helpers when invalidating memslot Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 10/18] KVM: SEV: Forcefully invalidate SNP VMSA if its backing gmem page is zapped Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 11/18] KVM: SEV: Mark vCPU has having guest-provided VMSA even if its invalid Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 12/18] KVM: x86: Guard .gmem_prepare() declarations with HAVE_KVM_GMEM_PREPARE=y Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 13/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Pass GPA, not GFN, to prepare() hook Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10  0:36   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-10 22:08     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10 22:43       ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-10 23:44         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-13 22:28           ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-14  0:00             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 14/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Drop the redundant printk on arch gmem_prepare() failure Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10  0:18   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 15/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Fold __kvm_gmem_prepare_folio() into its sole caller Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 16/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Explicitly pass number of pages to kvm_arch_gmem_prepare() Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10  0:23   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 17/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Align the gfn as well as the pfn when "preparing" a folio Sean Christopherson
2026-07-09 20:49 ` [PATCH v4 18/18] KVM: guest_memfd: Combine .gmem_prepare()+.gmem_invalidate() into .gmem_convert() Sean Christopherson
2026-07-10  0:34   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-12 19:05   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-07-13 15:41     ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-13 18:57       ` Fuad Tabba
2026-07-13 19:56         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-15  7:52   ` Yan Zhao [this message]
2026-07-14 18:40 ` [PATCH v4 00/18] KVM: SEV: Fix RMP #PF due to freeing in-use VMSA Sean Christopherson

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