From: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
To: "Koul, Vinod" <vinod.koul@intel.com>
Cc: "Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
"magnus.damm@gmail.com" <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
"lethal@linux-sh.org" <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
"linux-sh@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"damm@opensource.se" <damm@opensource.se>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] serial: sh-sci: don't filter on DMA device, use only channel ID
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 22:01:19 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1109072048310.30407@axis700.grange> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <438BB0150E931F4B9CE701519A4463010871804A4B@bgsmsx502.gar.corp.intel.com>
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Koul, Vinod wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 17:21 +0200, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Sep 2011, Vinod Koul wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 17:01 +0200, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 5 Sep 2011, Vinod Koul wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 15:48 +0200, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me try again. DMA channels on these DMA controllers are not dedicated.
> > > > > > On one such SoC there can be several such DMA controllers of different
> > > > > > kinds. One kind is "generic" - it can do memcpy(), besides channels can be
> > > > > > freely configured for one of onboard peripherals: serial, mmc, etc. Some
> > > > > > of them can also serve external DMA-capable devices. Another kind of DMA
> > > > > > controllers, served by the same driver, can only be used with USB
> > > > > > controllers. Now, if the MMC driver requests a DMA channel, let's say, the
> > > > > > dmaengine core first finds the USB DMA controller. The MMC driver cannot
> > > > > > know this. It assigns its MMC DMA configuration to the.private pointer and
> > > > > > returns true. Next the DMA driver is entered, it checks the private
> > > > > > pointer, sees an MMC channel request, looks at the DMA controller and
> > > > > > sees, that it doesn't support MMC. So, .device_alloc_chan_resources()
> > > > > > fails. When the same is attempted with a suitable DMA controller, the
> > > > > > shdma driver recognises, that the controller can service MMC and uses the
> > > > > > data, provided the MMC driver, to configure the DMA channel for MMC.
> > > > > Hmmm, Can't you know in filter function if the respective channel can do
> > > > > the dma for you or not? Maybe export a dma function or use platform data
> > > > > for this (wont you soc have these caps fixed), i prefer latter.
> > > > > That maybe a better approach.
> > > >
> > > > How? On a system you can have 3 suitable DMA controllers and 2 unsuitable.
> > > > Do you want to pass a list of 3 suitable DMA controllers to each
> > > > peripheral driver?...
> > > The peripheral driver (client driver in slave-dma terminology) should
> > > already know which dmac it wants. (base on information in platform data
> > > etc) That is why the filter function is provided. Please use it properly
> > > Other soc have similar capabilities and they can filter properly so why
> > > cant you..?
> >
> > Sorry, I have been thinking about these possibilities, but I really didn't
> > find any similar case in existing drivers. Normally either channels are
> > fixed - only one channel can be used for a specific peripheral, or any at
> > all, or there is only one suitable controller. I only see two
> > possibilities here, and they both look ugly to me:
> >
> > (1) pass a list of suitable DMA controllers to slave-dma drivers, there in
> > the filter you'd have to scan that list.
> > (2) select only one out of several suitable DMA controllers in the
> > platform configuration - that needlessly reduces flexibility.
> >
> > Whereas on the contrary, the DMA controller itself can perfectly look
> > through the list of supported peripherals on the current controller and
> > decide, whether the requested one is among them or not.
> Then why not have shdma_filter_func() exported and then used by all your
> clients for proper filtering.
You're seriously suggesting to export and use an additional shdma private
function, bypassing the dmaengine API?... That really doesn't sound like a
good idea to me, sorry. How about using .device_control(DMA_SLAVE_CONFIG)
from the filter function directly to verify channel suitability?
> I cant agree to the whole point of filtering in alloc
>
> One channel is allocated, we should _not_ do any further filtering
Sorry, I do not understand this argumentation. Filtering and resource
allocation are parts of the channel-acquisition process, either of them
can fail, in which case the channel remains free for future requests.
Thanks
Guennadi
> > > PS: This might well be my last post before Tue EOD PST, traveling to
> > > LPC, if you are there feel free to chat with me on this.
> >
> > No, unfortunately, I won#t be there. Are you coming to the KS in Prague in
> > October?
> Not decided yet...
---
Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D.
Freelance Open-Source Software Developer
http://www.open-technology.de/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-07 20:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-24 11:56 Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-06-24 11:47 ` Koul, Vinod
2011-08-29 8:00 ` Paul Mundt
2011-08-29 8:16 ` Magnus Damm
2011-08-29 11:55 ` Vinod Koul
2011-08-30 7:54 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-08-30 10:02 ` Vinod Koul
2011-08-30 11:20 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-08-30 11:23 ` Vinod Koul
2011-08-30 11:40 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-09-05 8:04 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-09-05 13:13 ` Vinod Koul
2011-09-05 13:48 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-09-05 14:43 ` Vinod Koul
2011-09-05 15:01 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-09-05 15:08 ` Vinod Koul
2011-09-05 15:21 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-09-07 18:42 ` Koul, Vinod
2011-09-07 20:01 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski [this message]
2011-09-07 21:37 ` Koul, Vinod
2011-09-08 1:21 ` Paul Mundt
2011-09-08 19:31 ` Vinod Koul
2011-09-14 5:16 ` Vinod Koul
2011-09-14 18:52 ` Alan Cox
2011-09-19 3:13 ` Vinod Koul
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