mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
To: "Koul, Vinod" <vinod.koul@intel.com>
Cc: "Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"magnus.damm@gmail.com" <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	"lethal@linux-sh.org" <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
	"linux-sh@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"damm@opensource.se" <damm@opensource.se>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] serial: sh-sci: don't filter on DMA device, use only channel ID
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 22:01:19 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1109072048310.30407@axis700.grange> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <438BB0150E931F4B9CE701519A4463010871804A4B@bgsmsx502.gar.corp.intel.com>

On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Koul, Vinod wrote:

> On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 17:21 +0200, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Sep 2011, Vinod Koul wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 17:01 +0200, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 5 Sep 2011, Vinod Koul wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 15:48 +0200, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Let me try again. DMA channels on these DMA controllers are not dedicated. 
> > > > > > On one such SoC there can be several such DMA controllers of different 
> > > > > > kinds. One kind is "generic" - it can do memcpy(), besides channels can be 
> > > > > > freely configured for one of onboard peripherals: serial, mmc, etc. Some 
> > > > > > of them can also serve external DMA-capable devices. Another kind of DMA 
> > > > > > controllers, served by the same driver, can only be used with USB 
> > > > > > controllers. Now, if the MMC driver requests a DMA channel, let's say, the 
> > > > > > dmaengine core first finds the USB DMA controller. The MMC driver cannot 
> > > > > > know this. It assigns its MMC DMA configuration to the.private pointer and 
> > > > > > returns true. Next the DMA driver is entered, it checks the private 
> > > > > > pointer, sees an MMC channel request, looks at the DMA controller and 
> > > > > > sees, that it doesn't support MMC. So, .device_alloc_chan_resources() 
> > > > > > fails. When the same is attempted with a suitable DMA controller, the 
> > > > > > shdma driver recognises, that the controller can service MMC and uses the 
> > > > > > data, provided the MMC driver, to configure the DMA channel for MMC.
> > > > > Hmmm, Can't you know in filter function if the respective channel can do
> > > > > the dma for you or not? Maybe export a dma function or use platform data
> > > > > for this (wont you soc have these caps fixed), i prefer latter.
> > > > > That maybe a better approach. 
> > > > 
> > > > How? On a system you can have 3 suitable DMA controllers and 2 unsuitable. 
> > > > Do you want to pass a list of 3 suitable DMA controllers to each 
> > > > peripheral driver?...
> > > The peripheral driver (client driver in slave-dma terminology) should
> > > already know which dmac it wants. (base on information in platform data
> > > etc) That is why the filter function is provided. Please use it properly
> > > Other soc have similar capabilities and they can filter properly so why
> > > cant you..?
> > 
> > Sorry, I have been thinking about these possibilities, but I really didn't 
> > find any similar case in existing drivers. Normally either channels are 
> > fixed - only one channel can be used for a specific peripheral, or any at 
> > all, or there is only one suitable controller. I only see two 
> > possibilities here, and they both look ugly to me:
> > 
> > (1) pass a list of suitable DMA controllers to slave-dma drivers, there in 
> > the filter you'd have to scan that list.
> > (2) select only one out of several suitable DMA controllers in the 
> > platform configuration - that needlessly reduces flexibility.
> > 
> > Whereas on the contrary, the DMA controller itself can perfectly look 
> > through the list of supported peripherals on the current controller and 
> > decide, whether the requested one is among them or not.
> Then why not have shdma_filter_func() exported and then used by all your
> clients for proper filtering.

You're seriously suggesting to export and use an additional shdma private 
function, bypassing the dmaengine API?... That really doesn't sound like a 
good idea to me, sorry. How about using .device_control(DMA_SLAVE_CONFIG) 
from the filter function directly to verify channel suitability?

> I cant agree to the whole point of filtering in alloc
> 
> One channel is allocated, we should _not_ do any further filtering

Sorry, I do not understand this argumentation. Filtering and resource 
allocation are parts of the channel-acquisition process, either of them 
can fail, in which case the channel remains free for future requests.

Thanks
Guennadi

> > > PS: This might well be my last post before Tue EOD PST, traveling to
> > > LPC, if you are there feel free to chat with me on this.
> > 
> > No, unfortunately, I won#t be there. Are you coming to the KS in Prague in 
> > October?
> Not decided yet...

---
Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D.
Freelance Open-Source Software Developer
http://www.open-technology.de/

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-07 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-24 11:56 Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-06-24 11:47 ` Koul, Vinod
2011-08-29  8:00   ` Paul Mundt
2011-08-29  8:16     ` Magnus Damm
2011-08-29 11:55       ` Vinod Koul
2011-08-30  7:54         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-08-30 10:02           ` Vinod Koul
2011-08-30 11:20             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-08-30 11:23               ` Vinod Koul
2011-08-30 11:40                 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-09-05  8:04                   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-09-05 13:13                     ` Vinod Koul
2011-09-05 13:48                       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-09-05 14:43                         ` Vinod Koul
2011-09-05 15:01                           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-09-05 15:08                             ` Vinod Koul
2011-09-05 15:21                               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2011-09-07 18:42                                 ` Koul, Vinod
2011-09-07 20:01                                   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski [this message]
2011-09-07 21:37                                     ` Koul, Vinod
2011-09-08  1:21                                       ` Paul Mundt
2011-09-08 19:31                                         ` Vinod Koul
2011-09-14  5:16                                           ` Vinod Koul
2011-09-14 18:52                                             ` Alan Cox
2011-09-19  3:13                                               ` Vinod Koul

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=alpine.DEB.2.00.1109072048310.30407@axis700.grange \
    --to=g.liakhovetski@gmx.de \
    --cc=damm@opensource.se \
    --cc=dan.j.williams@intel.com \
    --cc=lethal@linux-sh.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-sh@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=magnus.damm@gmail.com \
    --cc=vinod.koul@intel.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®