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From: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] xen/xenbus: Add quirk to deal with misconfigured backends.
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:16:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1203221511380.15151@kaball-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120322132102.GA22545@phenom.dumpdata.com>

On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:52:26AM +0000, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 10:44 +0000, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > > On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > > > A rather annoying and common case is when booting a PVonHVM guest
> > > > and exposing the PV KBD and PV VFB - as both of those do not
> > > > make any sense. The HVM guest is using the VGA driver and the emulated
> > > > keyboard for this. So we provide a very basic quirk framework
> > > > (can be expanded in the future) to not wait for 6 minutes for those devices
> > > > to initialize - they never wont.
> > > > 
> > > > To trigger this, put this in your guest config:
> > > > 
> > > > vfb = [ 'vnc=1, vnclisten=0.0.0.0 ,vncunused=1']
> > > > 
> > > > instead of this:
> > > > vnc=1
> > > > vnclisten="0.0.0.0"
> > > 
> > > While I do understand the issue you are trying to solve, it actually
> > > makes sense to have PV KBD (and PV VFB maybe in the future) in a PVonHVM
> > > guest. In particular PV KVB is already enabled in upstream QEMU for
> > > PVonHVM guests because it allows users to have a keyboard and mouse
> 
> How about looking for a particular Xen version? The patch
> could check for anything less than 4.2 (does 4.2 use that version of
> QEMU that has this implemented?). I can't find any way to get the QEMU
> version from within the guest - DMI reports:
> 
> DMI: Xen HVM domU, BIOS 4.1-120322 03/22/2012

I am not a great fun of enabling/disabling features depending on the Xen
version. What happens for example if a Linux distro decided to patch
QEMU 4.1 to enable PV KBD for PVonHVM guests?
I realize that it is unlikely but it is possible.
Maybe we can reduce the timeout for non essential devices (everything
expect disk, network and console) like Ian suggested?

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-22 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-22  2:59 Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-03-22 10:44 ` Stefano Stabellini
2012-03-22 10:52   ` Ian Campbell
2012-03-22 13:21     ` [Xen-devel] " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-03-22 15:16       ` Stefano Stabellini [this message]
2012-03-28 19:45         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-03-29 11:16           ` Stefano Stabellini

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