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From: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>
To: Daniel Halperin <dhalperi@cs.washington.edu>
Cc: Ivo Van Doorn <ivdoorn@gmail.com>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.38: rt2800usb: high latency (1000ms)?
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:36:02 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1104131634040.10727@p34.internal.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTin5VwUryoMK=jYpbNTudPLufZ+RDw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2011, Daniel Halperin wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com> wrote:
>>> (1) What is the AP's beacon period and DTIM? Typical values are 100
>>> TUs for beacons (102.4 ms) and 2 for DTIM (2 beacons per power-save
>>> wakeup) which should imply a mean of 100 and max of 200 ms delay even
>>> on pings.
>>
>> I am using a WNDR3700 with default settings in terms of beacons/etc.  No
>> issues with any device (laptop, computer, etc (in windows)), I have two
>> wireless USB adapters (bought two) and in Windows, no problems, I don't
>> think
>> it is the WNDR3700.  As far as linux/wpa-supplicant, using default settings.
>
> Not enough info. What does "iw dev wlan1 scan dump"  (it might not be
> wlan1 for you) say for "beacon interval"?

# iw dev wlan0 scan dump

BSS (hidden) (on wlan0) -- associated
         TSF: 103430650682 usec (1d, 04:43:50)
         freq: 2417
         beacon interval: 100
         capability: ESS Privacy ShortPreamble ShortSlotTime (0x0431)
         signal: -59.00 dBm
         last seen: 1345742 ms ago
         SSID: (hidden)
         Supported rates: 1.0* 2.0* 5.5* 11.0* 6.0 9.0 12.0 18.0
         DS Parameter set: channel 2
         RSN:     * Version: 1
                  * Group cipher: TKIP
                  * Pairwise ciphers: CCMP TKIP
                  * Authentication suites: PSK
                  * Capabilities: (0x0000)
         WPA:     * Version: 1
                  * Group cipher: TKIP
                  * Pairwise ciphers: CCMP TKIP
                  * Authentication suites: PSK
         ERP: <no flags>
         Extended supported rates: 24.0 36.0 48.0 54.0
         WMM:     * Parameter version 1
                  * u-APSD
                  * BE: CW 15-1023, AIFSN 3
                  * BK: CW 15-1023, AIFSN 7
                  * VI: CW 7-15, AIFSN 2, TXOP 3008 usec
                  * VO: acm CW 3-7, AIFSN 2, TXOP 1504 usec
         HT capabilities:
                 Capabilities: 0x11ce
                         HT20/HT40
                         SM Power Save disabled
                         RX HT40 SGI
                         TX STBC
                         RX STBC 1-stream
                         Max AMSDU length: 7935 bytes
                         DSSS/CCK HT40
                 Maximum RX AMPDU length 65535 bytes (exponent: 0x003)
                 Minimum RX AMPDU time spacing: 1/2 usec (0x02)
                 HT RX MCS rate indexes supported: 0-15
                 HT TX MCS rate indexes are undefined
         WPS:     * Version: 1.0
                  * Manufacturer: Netgear, Inc.
                  * Model: WNDR3700
                  * Device name: (hidden)
                  * Config methods: Ethernet, Label, PBC
>
> Does anyone know how to get the DTIM period out of iw?
>
>>> (2) How long does the client wait after waking up to go back to sleep?
>>> It should be at least a few seconds. For ssh, then, you should see
>>> something like a 100-200 ms delay for the first key and then nothing
>>> at all unless you stop typing for a bit.
>>
>> It lags with each word I type, it is terrible.  If I run something like
>> dmesg or ps auxww, the entire session freezes for 5-10 seconds before it
>> comes back.
>
> Sorry; I meant what is the software stack configured to do? Do some
> looking around.
>
>>> I'm SSHing over a Wi-Fi link that uses power save right this second,
>>> and have for years. It's not generally an issue, I suspect something
>>> worse is going on.
>>
>> Maybe the wireless usb adapters do not function well in Linux with power
>> save
>> on.
>>
>> I bought them awhile ago, they had the highest reviews, and in Windows,
>> they did do 10-15MiB/s, in Linux, I see ~4.6MiB/s (but that was with power
>> save on) about the same, 4.5MiB/s.
>> http://www.amazon.com/Medialink-Wireless-Adapter-802-11n-Compatible/dp/B002RM08RE
>
> Yeah, these might indicate a fairly sizable problem in the Linux drivers IMO.
>
> Dan
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-13 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-13 15:47 Justin Piszcz
2011-04-13 15:59 ` Ivo Van Doorn
2011-04-13 16:01   ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]     ` <BANLkTinxkXi6WnAyXoZLDR+uyL+TmevuPw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-04-13 16:25       ` Daniel Halperin
2011-04-13 17:57         ` Justin Piszcz
2011-04-13 18:37           ` Daniel Halperin
2011-04-13 20:13             ` Justin Piszcz
2011-04-13 20:31               ` Daniel Halperin
2011-04-13 20:36                 ` Justin Piszcz [this message]
2011-04-13 22:26                   ` Joshua Scoggins
2011-04-14  5:38                 ` Igor Plyatov
2011-04-14  5:17               ` Igor Plyatov
2011-04-13 16:11   ` Walter Goldens
2011-04-13 18:44   ` Marc Dietrich
2011-04-25 18:35 ` 2.6.38: rt2800usb: driver is crashing the kernel Justin Piszcz
2011-04-25 20:52   ` Roland Dreier
2011-04-25 20:56     ` Justin Piszcz
2011-04-26 10:22     ` Justin Piszcz
2011-04-26 21:53       ` Justin Piszcz
2011-04-26 22:30         ` Larry Finger
2011-04-26 23:31           ` Justin Piszcz
2011-04-27  0:29             ` Jano
2011-05-02 23:46             ` Justin Piszcz
2011-05-03  1:15               ` Larry Finger
2011-05-03 12:53                 ` Walter Goldens
2011-05-03 13:08                   ` Jools Wills
2011-05-26 16:24                     ` Justin Piszcz

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