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From: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	"konrad.wilk@oracle.com" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] arm/xen: define xen_remap as ioremap_cached
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 12:35:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1306041230080.4589@kaball.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130604112834.GA3234@MacBook-Pro.local>

On Tue, 4 Jun 2013, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 10:20:50AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 16:33 +0100, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > > Define xen_remap as ioremap_cache (MT_MEMORY and MT_DEVICE_CACHED end up
> > > having the same AttrIndx encoding).
> > 
> > The entries in static struct mem_type mem_types[] look entirely
> > different to me.  What am I missing?
> > 	[MT_DEVICE_CACHED] = {	  /* ioremap_cached */
> > 		.prot_pte	= PROT_PTE_DEVICE | L_PTE_MT_DEV_CACHED,
> > 		.prot_l1	= PMD_TYPE_TABLE,
> > 		.prot_sect	= PROT_SECT_DEVICE | PMD_SECT_WB,
> > 		.domain		= DOMAIN_IO,
> > 	},
> > 	[MT_MEMORY] = {
> > 		.prot_pte  = L_PTE_PRESENT | L_PTE_YOUNG | L_PTE_DIRTY,
> > 		.prot_l1   = PMD_TYPE_TABLE,
> > 		.prot_sect = PMD_TYPE_SECT | PMD_SECT_AP_WRITE,
> > 		.domain    = DOMAIN_KERNEL,
> > 	},
> > 
> > I can see in pgtable-3level.h how L_PTE_MT_DEV_CACHED and
> > L_PTE_MT_WRITEBACK are the same but not where the MT_WRITEBACK comes
> > from for MT_MEMORY. Things are less clear in pgtable-2level.h, where one
> > is 0x3 and the other is 0xb. I can see that the entries are the same in
> > armv6_mt_table but how that would apply to a v7 processor?
> 
> PROT_PTE_DEVICE and PROT_SECT_DEVICE above don't contain any memory type
> information, just attributes/permission - present, young, dirty and XN:
> 
> #define PROT_PTE_DEVICE		L_PTE_PRESENT|L_PTE_YOUNG|L_PTE_DIRTY|L_PTE_XN
> #define PROT_SECT_DEVICE	PMD_TYPE_SECT|PMD_SECT_AP_WRITE
> 
> The memory type is given by the L_PTE_MT_DEV_CACHED and PMD_SECT_WB
> macros. Let's take prot_sect first as it's simpler. For MT_DEVICE_CACHED
> we have:
> 
> .prot_sect = PMD_TYPE_SECT | PMD_SECT_AP_WRITE | PMD_SECT_WB
> 
> For MT_MEMORY we have:
> 
> .prot_sect = PMD_TYPE_SECT | PMD_SECT_AP_WRITE
> 
> The cache policy is added later to MT_MEMORY which is either WB or WBWA
> (based on SMP, no particular reason as these are just processor hints;
> for some historical reasons we enabled WBWA for ARM11MPCore but we could
> leave it on all the time).
> 
> Similarly for prot_pte, present, young, dirty are the same.
> 
> Regarding the type, on ARMv7 (with or without LPAE) we use TEX remapping
> and L_PTE_MT_DEVICE has the same index (3-bit TEX[0], C, B for NMRR/PRRR
> or TEX[2:0] for MAIR0/MAIR1 registers) as Normal Cacheable Writeback
> memory (there is no such thing as Device memory with cacheability
> attributes, only Normal Cacheable memory).
> 
> We have XN in addition for MT_DEVICE_CACHED to prevent speculative
> instruction fetches. However, you still get speculative D-cache line
> fills since the memory is Normal Cacheable.
> 
> > Anyhow, even if I'm prepared to believe that MT_MEMORY and
> > MT_DEVICE_CACHED end up being the same thing (which TBH I am) it seems
> > that the level of abstraction involved makes us vulnerable to future
> > changes subtly breaking things for us. What about:
> > 
> >         /* Device shared memory */
> >         #define ioremap_shm(cookie,size)		__arm_ioremap((cookie), (size), MT_MEMORY)
> 
> For my understanding, what is Xen doing with such mapping? I would
> rather make ioremap_cached() use MT_MEMORY on ARMv6/v7 (or make it
> closer to that, I'm not sure about the implications on ARMv5 and earlier
> but for newer architectures I don't see the point in pretending to have
> Cacheable Device memory). That's however for Russell to comment.

Xen guests share these pages with one another and place a lockless ring
buffer on it for bidirectional communication. So the page that is being
ioremapped actually belongs to another guest and it's RAM.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-04 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-03 15:32 [PATCH v2 0/5] Introduce Xen support to ARM64 Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-03 15:33 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] arm/xen: define xen_remap as ioremap_cached Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-04  9:20   ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-04 11:28     ` Catalin Marinas
2013-06-04 11:35       ` Stefano Stabellini [this message]
2013-06-04 13:58       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-04 14:14         ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-04 16:26         ` Catalin Marinas
2013-06-03 15:33 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] arm64/xen: introduce asm/xen header files on arm64 Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-04  9:24   ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-03 15:33 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] arm64/xen: implement ioremap_cached " Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-03 15:33 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] arm64/xen: use XEN_IO_PROTO_ABI_ARM on ARM64 Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-04  9:25   ` Ian Campbell
2013-06-03 15:33 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64/xen: introduce CONFIG_XEN and hypercall.S " Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-03 16:25   ` Catalin Marinas
2013-06-03 16:37     ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2013-06-03 16:43       ` Catalin Marinas
2013-06-03 16:51     ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-06-05 13:21       ` Catalin Marinas
2013-06-04 14:47     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-06-04 16:27       ` Catalin Marinas

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