From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756782Ab3KZMex (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Nov 2013 07:34:53 -0500 Received: from www.linutronix.de ([62.245.132.108]:33483 "EHLO Galois.linutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756704Ab3KZMes (ORCPT ); Tue, 26 Nov 2013 07:34:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 13:34:37 +0100 (CET) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Peter Zijlstra cc: Ingo Molnar , Davidlohr Bueso , LKML , Jason Low , Darren Hart , Mike Galbraith , Jeff Mahoney , Linus Torvalds , Scott Norton , Tom Vaden , Aswin Chandramouleeswaran , Waiman Long , "Paul E. McKenney" Subject: Re: [RFC patch 0/5] futex: Allow lockless empty check of hashbucket plist in futex_wake() In-Reply-To: <20131126115628.GK10022@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> Message-ID: References: <20131125203358.156292370@linutronix.de> <1385453551.12603.16.camel@buesod1.americas.hpqcorp.net> <20131126085256.GD789@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20131126112140.GC2410@gmail.com> <20131126115628.GK10022@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Linutronix-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Linutronix-Spam-Level: - X-Linutronix-Spam-Status: No , -1.0 points, 5.0 required, ALL_TRUSTED=-1,SHORTCIRCUIT=-0.0001 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 26 Nov 2013, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:21:40PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > I'm somewhat reluctant to chalk it up to a single mfence - maybe > > timings/behavior changed in some substantial way? > > Ah indeed! We also changed the case where an enqueueing futex sees the > uval change and bails. It is now far more expensive due to having to > both queue and unqueue, whereas before it wouldn't queue at all. > > I suppose the idea was to offset that by not requiring locking on the > wake side. Aside of that I really would be interrested in an explanation for the STDDEV going up by factor 5. That's a clear indicator for fishyness. Thanks, tglx