From: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
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"david.vrabel@citrix.com" <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/8] arm64: introduce is_device_dma_coherent
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:35:06 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1411101200080.22875@kaball.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141110101645.GA21366@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 06:45:22PM +0000, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 05:35:41PM +0000, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > > > What I would like to see is xen_dma_map_page() also using hyp calls for
> > > > > > cache maintenance when !pfn_valid(), for symmetry with unmap. You would
> > > > > > need another argument to xen_dma_map_page() though to pass the real
> > > > > > device address or mfn (and on the map side you could simply check for
> > > > > > page_to_pfn(page) != mfn). For such cases, Xen swiotlb already handles
> > > > > > bouncing so you don't need dom0 swiotlb involved as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can see that it would be nice to have map_page and unmap_page be
> > > > > symmetrical. However actually doing the map_page flush with an hypercall
> > > > > would slow things down. Hypercalls are slower than function calls. It is
> > > > > faster to do the cache flushing in dom0 if possible. In the map_page
> > > > > case we have the struct page so we can easily do it by calling the
> > > > > native dma_ops function.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe I could just add a comment to explain the reason for the asymmetry?
> > > >
> > > > Ah, but the problem is that map_page could allocate a swiotlb buffer
> > > > (actually it does on arm64) that without a corresponding unmap_page
> > > > call, would end up being leaked, right?
> > >
> > > Yes. You could hack dma_capable() to always return true for dom0
> > > (because the pfn/dma address here doesn't have anything to do with the
> > > real mfn) but that's more of a hack assuming a lot about the swiotlb
> > > implementation.
> >
> > Another idea would be to avoid calling the native map_page for foreign
> > pages, but in the xen specific implementation instead of making the
> > hypercall, we could call __dma_map_area on arm64 and map_page on arm.
>
> The problem here is that you assume that for an SoC that is not fully
> coherent all it needs is __dma_map_area. If you look at mach-mvebu, the
> DMA is nearly cache coherent but it needs some specific synchronisation
> barrier at the interconnect level. If we get something like this on a
> platform with virtualisation, it would be implemented at the dom0 level
> by SoC-specific DMA ops. Xen hypervisor I assume has its own BSP, hence
> it could implement SoC specific cache flushing there. But with the mix
> of cache flushing in dom0 on map and hypervisor on unmap such thing is
> no longer be possible in a nice way.
Yes, Xen has its own little platform files.
I think you convinced me that having map in Linux and unmap in Xen is
not a long term solid solution.
> > In arch/arm/include/asm/xen/page-coherent.h:
> >
> > static inline void xen_dma_map_page(struct device *hwdev, struct page *page,
> > dma_addr_t dev_addr, unsigned long offset, size_t size,
> > enum dma_data_direction dir, struct dma_attrs *attrs)
> > {
> > if (pfn_valid(PFN_DOWN(dev_addr))) {
>
> BTW, pfn_valid() is more expensive than simply comparing the mfn with
> pfn for dom0. The calling code knows this already and it may be quicker
> to simply pass a "bool foreign" argument.
Good point, I can compare mfn and pfn here.
I cannot do the same in unmap_page and the various sync operations,
because there is no pfn available, but maybe I could use
set_page_private to set a flag. I'll think about it.
> > It wouldn't be as nice as using the hypercall but it would be faster and
> > wouldn't depend on the inner workings of the arm64 implementation of
> > map_page, except for __dma_map_area.
>
> This "except" is big as we may at some point get some SoC like mvebu (I
> would say less likely for arm64 than arm32).
>
> BTW, does the Xen hypervisor already have a mapping of the mfn?
On arm64, it does.
On arm32, we have a pool of mappings, when we run out we start
overwriting old mappings.
> If not
> and it has to create one temporarily for the flush, you may not lose
> much by using the dom0 ops for unmap with a hyper call for temporarily
> mapping the foreign page in dom0's IPA space (you could do the unmapping
> lazily).
That's true. Fortunately on arm64 we are OK.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-10 12:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-27 15:08 [PATCH v7 0/8] introduce GNTTABOP_cache_flush Stefano Stabellini
2014-10-27 15:09 ` [PATCH v7 1/8] xen/arm: remove handling of XENFEAT_grant_map_identity Stefano Stabellini
2014-10-27 15:09 ` [PATCH v7 2/8] xen/arm: remove outer_*_range call Stefano Stabellini
2014-10-27 15:09 ` [PATCH v7 3/8] arm64: introduce is_device_dma_coherent Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-03 10:46 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-03 10:57 ` Will Deacon
2014-11-03 11:10 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-04 11:35 ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-11-04 15:00 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-05 16:56 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-05 18:15 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-06 10:33 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-06 12:22 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-06 13:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-07 11:05 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-07 11:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-07 14:10 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-07 14:10 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-07 16:00 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-07 17:24 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-07 17:35 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-07 18:14 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-07 18:45 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-10 10:16 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-10 12:35 ` Stefano Stabellini [this message]
2014-11-10 12:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-10-27 15:09 ` [PATCH v7 4/8] arm: " Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-03 10:55 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-10-27 15:09 ` [PATCH v7 5/8] xen/arm: use is_device_dma_coherent Stefano Stabellini
2014-10-27 15:09 ` [PATCH v7 6/8] xen/arm/arm64: merge xen/mm32.c into xen/mm.c Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-07 14:22 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-07 15:28 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-07 16:03 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-07 16:46 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-10-27 15:09 ` [PATCH v7 7/8] xen/arm/arm64: introduce xen_arch_need_swiotlb Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-03 10:45 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-11-03 11:01 ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2014-11-03 16:04 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-10-27 15:09 ` [PATCH v7 8/8] xen/arm: introduce GNTTABOP_cache_flush Stefano Stabellini
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