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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@linux.intel.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
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	bill o gallmeister <bgallmeister@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Daniel Wagner <wagi@monom.org>, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Subject: Re: futex(2) man page update help request
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 23:23:42 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1501152313330.5526@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54B7D87C.3090901@gmail.com>

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > [EINVAL] uaddr equal uaddr2. Requeue to same futex.
> 
> ??? I added this, but does this error not occur only for PI requeues?

It's equally wrong for normal futexes. And its actually the same code
checking for this for all variants.

> > [EDEADLOCK] The futex is already locked by the caller or the kernel 
> > detected a deadlock scenario in a nested lock chain
>
> Added.

It's actually EDEADLK

> 
> > [EOWNERDIED] The owner of the futex died and the kernel made the 
> > caller the new owner. The kernel sets the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED bit in the
> > futex userspace value. Caller is responsible for cleanup
> 
> There is no such thing as an EOWNERDIED error. I had a look
> through the kernel source for the FUTEX_OWNER_DIED cases and didn't 
> see an obvious error associated with them. Can you clarify? (I think 
> the point is that this condition, which is described in
> Documentation/robust-futexes.txt, is not an error as such. However, I'm
> not yet sure of how to describe it in the man page.)
> I will add this point as a FIXME in the new draft man page.

Oops. My bad. That's not the what the kernel does. The kernel merily
marks it in the futex itself with FUTEX_OWNER_DIED. User space needs
to deal with that and the posix users return EOWNERDEAD (not
EOWNERDIED], so it's not part of the futex call itself.

We had discussions about returning EOWNERDEAD in that case, but then
glibc with its sophisticated error handling prevented that ....
 
> > FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI
> > 
> > This operation tries to acquire the futex at uaddr. It deals with the
> > situation where the TID value at uaddr is 0, but the FUTEX_HAS_WAITER
> > bit is set. User space cannot handle this race free.
> 
> Added.
> 
> > The arguments uaddr2, val, timeout and val3 are ignored.
> 
> ??? But the code reads:
> 
>         case FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI:
>                 return futex_lock_pi(uaddr, flags, 0, timeout, 1);
>  
> which momentarily misleads one into thinking that 'timeout' is used.
> And: it's not quite ignored, since in futex_lock_pi() a non-NULL
> 'timeout' is unconditionally dereferenced (meaning you could get
> an EFAULT error for a bad 'timeout' pointer).
> I'm confused....

Indeed. That's just wrong.
 
> Maybe the above code should be
> 
>         case FUTEX_TRYLOCK_PI:
>                 return futex_lock_pi(uaddr, flags, 0, NULL, 1);
> ?

Care to send a patch?
 
> > FUTEX_WAIT_REQUEUE_PI
> > 
> > Wait operation to wait on a non pi futex at uaddr and potentially be
> > requeued on a pi futex at uaddr2. The wait operation on uaddr is the
> > same as FUTEX_WAIT. The waiter can be removed from the wait on uaddr
> > via FUTEX_WAKE without requeuing on uaddr2.
> 
> Added.
> 
> > The timeout argument is handled as described in FUTEX_WAIT.
> 
> The above seems not to be correct. I've written the discussion of
> 'timeout' up as I understand it, and added a FIXME to the draft page.
> 
> > Darren, can you fill in the missing details?
> 
> > Return values:
> > 
> > [EFAULT] Kernel was unable to access the futex value at uaddr or
> > uaddr2
> 
> Already covered.
> 
> > [EINVAL] The supplied uaddr or uaddr2 argument does not point to a
> > valid object, i.e. pointer is not 4 byte aligned
> 
> Already covered.
> 
> > [EINVAL] The supplied timeout argument is not normalized.
> 
> Already covered.
> 
> > [EINVAL] The supplied bitset is zero.
> 
> ??? I don't believe this can happen. 'val3' is internally set to
> FUTEX_BITSET_MATCH_ANY. Can you confirm?

Right. We dont support that bitset stuff in requeue_pi ATM.
 
Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-15 22:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-14 10:35 Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-14 16:18 ` Darren Hart
2014-05-14 19:03   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-14 19:59     ` Darren Hart
2014-05-14 20:23     ` Carlos O'Donell
2014-05-14 20:44       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-14 23:34       ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-15  3:12         ` Carlos O'Donell
2014-05-15  4:49           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-15  4:53         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-15 14:14           ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-15 20:19             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-08-04 14:46               ` Carlos O'Donell
2014-05-15 20:35             ` Darren Hart
2015-01-15 15:12               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-17  1:33                 ` Darren Hart
2015-01-17  9:16                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-17 19:26                     ` Darren Hart
2015-01-18 10:18                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-15 15:10             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-15 22:23               ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2015-01-16 15:17                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-16 15:20                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-16 20:54                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-17  0:46                       ` Darren Hart
2015-01-19 10:45                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-19 14:07                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-01-23 18:19                         ` Torvald Riegel
2015-01-24 10:05                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-24 12:58                             ` Torvald Riegel
2015-01-24 16:25                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-17  0:56                       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-01-17  1:11                         ` Darren Hart
2015-01-23 18:29               ` Torvald Riegel
2015-01-24 11:35                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-01-24 13:12                   ` Torvald Riegel
2015-01-27  7:48                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-05 19:57                   ` Darren Hart
2014-05-15  8:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-15 15:43         ` Darren Hart
2014-05-15  8:14       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-15 13:18         ` Carlos O'Donell
2014-05-15 13:22           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-15 13:49             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-15 13:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-15 14:39               ` Carlos O'Donell
2014-05-15 15:11                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-14 20:56     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-05-14 21:03       ` Darren Hart
2014-05-14 22:21         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-05-15  0:28       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15  0:35         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-05-15  0:41           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 19:10         ` Carlos O'Donell
2014-05-14 21:05   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-05-15 15:15     ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-15  0:18   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15  5:21     ` Darren Hart
2014-05-15  8:23       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-15 13:46       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-15 14:59         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 15:42         ` chrubis
2014-05-15 15:52           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 16:01             ` chrubis
2014-05-15 16:07               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 16:17                 ` chrubis
2014-05-15 16:56                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 17:06                     ` chrubis
2014-05-15 15:47         ` Darren Hart
2014-05-15 15:35     ` chrubis
2014-05-15 15:28   ` chrubis
2014-05-15 15:40     ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-15 16:14     ` Darren Hart
2014-05-15 16:30       ` chrubis
2014-05-15 18:17         ` Darren Hart
2014-05-15 19:05           ` chrubis
2014-05-15 19:38             ` Darren Hart
2014-08-11 10:19               ` chrubis
2014-11-26 13:41               ` Cyril Hrubis
2015-02-16 13:14               ` Cyril Hrubis

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