From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Suzuki Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
Lorenzo Pieralisi <Lorenzo.Pieralisi@arm.com>,
Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] clockevents: return error from tick_broadcast_oneshot_control if !GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS_BROADCAST
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:50:40 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1506261346090.4037@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <558D36BC.6090502@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, Preeti U Murthy wrote:
> On 06/26/2015 01:17 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, Preeti U Murthy wrote:
> >> What about the case where GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS_BROADCAST=y and
> >> TICK_ONESHOT=n (HZ_PERIODIC=y) ? Have you tested this ?
> >>
> >> This will hang the kernel at boot if you are using the hrtimer mode of
> >> broadcast. This is because the local timers of all cpus are shutdown
> >> when the cpuidle driver registers itself, on finding out that there are
> >> idle states where local tick devices stop. The broadcast tick device is
> >> then in charge of waking up the cpus at every period. In hrtimer mode of
> >> broadcast, there is no such real device and we hang.
> >
> > Hmm, no. tick-broadcast-hrtimer.o depends on TICK_ONESHOT=y. So this
> > is covered by the check for the broadcast device, which is NULL.
> >
> > But there is another variant:
> >
> > GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS_BROADCAST=y TICK_ONESHOT=y and 'highres=off
> > nohz=off' on the kernel command line.
>
> Can this happen at all? It is during tick_init_highres() or
> tick_nohz_switch_to_nohz() that we switch to oneshot mode, not otherwise
> AFAICT.
And how does that matter? If 'highres=off nohz=off' is on the kernel
command line none of the switchovers happens. So system stays in
periodic mode and the broadcast hrtimer thing is registered, right?
> I was actually talking of the following scenario. In periodic mode,
> where GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS_BROADCAST=y, the arch can execute
> tick_setup_hrtimer_broadcast(), which will return nothing as you point
> out above. So there is no broadcast clockevent device.
>
> When the cpuidle driver registers with the cpuidle core however,
> cpuidle_setup_broadcast_timer() on every cpu is executed if it finds
> that there is an idle state where ticks stop.
>
> cpuidle_setup_broadcast_timer()
> tick_broadcast_enable()
> tick_broadcast_control(BROADCAST_ON)
> bc = tick_broadcast_device.evtdev which is NULL in this case
>
> TICK_BROADCAST_ON:
> checks for periodic mode of the broadcast device - succeeds
> although we haven't registered a broadcast device because
> value of TICKDEV_PERIODIC is 0, the default value of td.mode.
>
> clockevents_shutdown(dev)
>
> At this point all cpus stop.
Right. That's a different one, if tick_broadcast_device.evtdev == NULL.
We should not stop any cpu local timer in that case. Combined with the
patch I sent, we prevent the idle stuff from going into a state where
the cpu local timers stop.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-26 11:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-25 10:27 Sudeep Holla
2015-06-25 13:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-06-25 15:30 ` Sudeep Holla
2015-06-26 5:08 ` Preeti U Murthy
2015-06-26 7:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-06-26 11:25 ` Preeti U Murthy
2015-06-26 11:50 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2015-06-26 12:37 ` Preeti U Murthy
2015-06-26 12:34 ` Preeti U Murthy
2015-06-26 12:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-06-26 12:46 ` Preeti U Murthy
2015-07-01 9:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-06-26 12:58 ` Sudeep Holla
2015-06-26 8:38 ` Sudeep Holla
2015-06-26 4:59 ` Preeti U Murthy
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