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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Darren Hart <darren@dvhart.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	"Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
	Torvald Riegel <triegel@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Subject: Re: [patch V2 3/7] futex: Add op for hash preallocation
Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 10:47:38 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1605071046130.3540@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160506181843.GF48432@f23x64.localdomain>

On Fri, 6 May 2016, Darren Hart wrote:
> On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 08:44:05PM -0000, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > From: Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
> > 
> > The per process hash is allocated on the fly at the first futex operation of a
> > process. The size of the hash is determined by a system wide default setting
> > controlled by the sys admin, This is suboptimal for RT applications and
> > applications with pathological futex abuse,
> > 
> >  - For RT applications its important to allocate the per process hash before the
> >    first futex operation to avoid the allocation on the first futex operation.
> > 
> >  - For pathological applications which use gazillions of futexes its useful to
> >    allocate a hash greater than the default hash size.
> 
> "it's" or preferably "it is"
> 
> > 
> > Add a futex op which allows to preallocate the hash with the requested
> 
> "allows for preallocating"
> 
> > size. The size is limited by the systemwide maximum hash size, which can be
> 
> system-wide
> 
> > set by the admin. The requested size is rounded up to the next order of 2.
> > 
> > The function can be called several times, but ony the first call results in a
> > hash allocation of the requested size as there is no non-intrusive way to
> > reallocate/rehash in a multithreaded application.
> > 
> > Note, that this call must be issued before the first futex operation in the
> > process because that would automatically allocate the default sized hash.
> 
> So this seems like it could be tricky for the user as system libraries, like
> glibc, make use of futexes. Can we guarantee that "sys_futex" is not called by
> the time main() is called?

To the extent of my testing I never observed that the hash was automatically
created when I called futex(PREALLOC) right away in main. But yes, that might
need some thought.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-07  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-05 20:44 [patch V2 0/7] futex: Add support for process private hashing Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-05 20:44 ` [patch V2 1/7] futex: Add some more function commentry Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-06 17:37   ` Darren Hart
2016-05-05 20:44 ` [patch V2 2/7] futex: Hash private futexes per process Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-06 18:09   ` Darren Hart
2016-05-06 21:56     ` Darren Hart
2016-05-07  8:45       ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-11 21:08         ` Darren Hart
2016-05-07  8:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-11 21:07       ` Darren Hart
2016-05-27 16:36       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-19 12:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-27 16:52     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-30  8:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-19 12:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-27 17:10     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-30  8:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-30 11:08         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-30 12:06           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-30 13:37             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-30 13:49               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-30 13:59                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-30 14:02                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-05 20:44 ` [patch V2 3/7] futex: Add op for hash preallocation Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-06 18:18   ` Darren Hart
2016-05-07  8:47     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2016-05-07 11:40       ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-19 12:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-19 19:36         ` Darren Hart
2016-05-19 12:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-19 19:38     ` Darren Hart
2016-05-20  4:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-19 12:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-27 17:27     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-30  8:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-05 20:44 ` [patch V2 4/7] futex: Add sysctl knobs for process private hash Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-06 18:22   ` Darren Hart
2016-05-27 17:33     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-05 20:44 ` [patch V2 5/7] perf/bench/futex-hash: Support NUMA Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-05 20:44 ` [patch V2 6/7] perf/bench/futex-hash: Support preallocate hash table Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-05 20:44 ` [patch V2 7/7] futex.2: Document hash preallocation opcode Thomas Gleixner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-05-05 19:03 [patch V2 0/7] Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, Darren Hart <darren@dvhart.com>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>, Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>, Torvald Riegel <triegel@redhat.com>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-05 19:03 ` [patch V2 3/7] futex: Add op for hash preallocation Thomas Gleixner

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