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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Nicolai Stange <nicstange@gmail.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Hidehiro Kawai <hidehiro.kawai.ez@hitachi.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Christopher S. Hall" <christopher.s.hall@intel.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] kernel/time/clockevents: compensate for monotonic clock's dynamic frequency
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:04:17 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1607121651580.4083@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87poqjm7r2.fsf@gmail.com>

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016, Nicolai Stange wrote:
> I tried adjusting the clock event device's ->mult, triggered by
> timekeeping_apply_adjustment() and it works well.
> 
> I think that in order to avoid error accumulation, it is best not to do
> any incremental updates to ->mult, but introduce a new ->mult_mono and
> recalculate the latter from the former.
> 
> Now, the ->mult_mono needs to get updated when the driver updates
> ->mult. Certainly, hooking into clockevents_register_device() and
> clockevents_update_freq() is the method of choice here. However,
> there are a handful of drivers which set ->mult from
> ->set_state_oneshot() either by direct assignment or through
> clockevents_config():
>   drivers/clocksource/sh_cmt.c
>   drivers/clocksource/sh_tmu.c
>   drivers/clocksource/em_sti.c
>   drivers/clocksource/h8300_timer8.c
> Converting these to clockevents_update_freq() seems straightforward
> though.

Ok.
 
> Another issue is that ->min_delta_ns and ->max_delta_ns are measured in
> raw clock time while the delta in clockevents_program_event() would now
> be interpreted as being in monotonic clock time:
>   clc = ((unsigned long long) delta * dev->mult_mono) >> dev->shift;

Does that really matter much?

> Ideally, I'd like to get rid of ->min_delta_ns and ->max_delta_ns
> alltogether and consistently use the ->min_delta_ticks and
> ->max_delta_ticks instead. AFAICS, ->min_delta_ns is really needed only
> for setting dev->next_event in clockevents_program_min_delta().
> dev->next_event is read only from __clockevents_update_freq() for
> reprogramming purposes and thus, assuming 0 for ->delta_min_ns in
> clockevents_program_min_delta() would probably work: a reprogramming
> would invoke clockevents_program_min_delta() once again.

I completely fail to parse the above paragraph. 
 
> The downside of this approach is that a quick grep reveals 40 clockevent
> device drivers whose initialization code would need to get touched in
> order to convert them from min_delta_ns/max_delta_ns to
> min_delta_ticks/max_delta_ticks.
> 
> So, the question is whether I should do all of this or whether the
> doubled timer interrupts aren't annoying enough to justify such a big
> change?

Can you provide an initial patch which does the adjustment w/o all the related
churn so we can see how intrusive that gets?

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-12 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-10 19:30 [PATCH v2 0/4] avoid double timer interrupt with nohz and Intel TSC Nicolai Stange
2016-07-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] arch, x86, tsc deadline clockevent dev: reduce frequency roundoff error Nicolai Stange
2016-07-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] arch, x86, tsc deadline clockevent dev: reduce TSC_DIVISOR to 2 Nicolai Stange
2016-07-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] arch, x86, tsc: inform TSC deadline clockevent device about recalibration Nicolai Stange
2016-07-10 19:30 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] kernel/time/clockevents: compensate for monotonic clock's dynamic frequency Nicolai Stange
2016-07-11  6:32   ` Nicolai Stange
2016-07-11  8:32     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-07-12 11:10       ` Nicolai Stange
2016-07-12 15:04         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2016-07-13 13:08           ` Nicolai Stange

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