From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965477AbcIWJQC (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 Sep 2016 05:16:02 -0400 Received: from Galois.linutronix.de ([146.0.238.70]:40682 "EHLO Galois.linutronix.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S935144AbcIWJP5 (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 Sep 2016 05:15:57 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:13:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Thomas Gleixner To: Peter Zijlstra cc: Mikulas Patocka , Mike Snitzer , Alasdair Kergon , Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com, Joe Thornber Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] dm: Remove dm_bufio_cond_resched() In-Reply-To: <20160923090524.GE5008@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> Message-ID: References: <20160913084520.GA5012@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20160913133959.GA22833@redhat.com> <20160919105325.GW5016@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20160923073435.GL2794@worktop> <20160923090524.GE5008@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:00:37AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > It is, might_sleep() implies might_resched(). In fact, that's all what > > > PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY is, make the might_sleep() debug test imply a resched > > > point. > > > > Grr, how intuitive - NOT! > > No, it actually makes sense. Because you 'obviously' only call > might_sleep() in contexts that should be able to sleep (if not, it'll > holler). So they're already placed right for preemption. I disagree. might_sleep() is commonly known as a debug mechanism and it existed before the preemption stuff went in. So the easy way to sprinkle preemption points into the kernel was to hijack might_sleep(). I know it's historical, but that doesnt make it any more intuitive. Thanks, tglx