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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>
Cc: Gilad Ben Yossef <giladb@mellanox.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Francis Giraldeau <francis.giraldeau@gmail.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: task isolation discussion at Linux Plumbers
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 17:55:47 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1611071753040.3709@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1605b087-2b3b-77c1-01ac-084e378f5f28@mellanox.com>

On Sat, 5 Nov 2016, Chris Metcalf wrote:
> == Remote statistics ==
> 
> We discussed the possibility of remote statistics gathering, i.e. load
> average etc.  The idea would be that we could have housekeeping
> core(s) periodically iterate over the nohz cores to load their rq
> remotely and do update_current etc.  Presumably it should be possible
> for a single housekeeping core to handle doing this for all the
> nohz_full cores, as we only need to do it quite infrequently.
> 
> Thomas suggested that this might be the last remaining thing that
> needed to be done to allow disabling the current behavior of falling
> back to a 1 Hz clock in nohz_full.
> 
> I believe Thomas said he had a patch to do this already.

No, Riek was working on that.

> == Remote LRU cache drain ==
> 
> One of the issues with task isolation currently is that the LRU cache
> drain must be done prior to entering userspace, but it requires
> interrupts enabled and thus can't be done atomically.  My previous
> patch series have handled this by checking with interrupts disabled,
> but then looping around with interrupts enabled to try to drain the
> LRU pagevecs.  Experimentally this works, but it's not provable that
> it terminates, which is worrisome.  Andy suggested adding a percpu
> flag to disable creation of deferred work like LRU cache pages.
> 
> Thomas suggested using an RT "local lock" to guard the LRU cache
> flush; he is planning on bringing the concept to mainline in any case.
> However, after some discussion we converged on simply using a spinlock
> to guard the appropriate resources.  As a result, the
> lru_add_drain_all() code that currently queues work on each remote cpu
> to drain it, can instead simply acquire the lock and drain it remotely.
> This means that a task isolation task no longer needs to worry about
> being interrupted by SMP function call IPIs, so we don't have to deal
> with this in the task isolation framework any more.
> 
> I don't recall anyone else volunteering to tackle this, so I will plan
> to look at it.  The patch to do that should be orthogonal to the
> revised task isolation patch series.

I offered to clean up the patch from RT. I'll do that in the next days.
 
> == Missing oneshot_stopped callbacks ==
> 
> I raised the issue that various clock_event_device sources don't
> always support oneshot_stopped, which can cause an additional
> final interrupt to occur after the timer infrastructure believes the
> interrupt has been stopped.  I have patches to fix this for tile and
> arm64 in my patch series; Thomas volunteered to look at adding
> equivalent support for x86.

Right.

Thanks,

	tglx

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-07 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-16 21:19 [PATCH v15 00/13] support "task_isolation" mode Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 01/13] vmstat: add quiet_vmstat_sync function Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 02/13] vmstat: add vmstat_idle function Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 03/13] lru_add_drain_all: factor out lru_add_drain_needed Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 04/13] task_isolation: add initial support Chris Metcalf
2016-08-29 16:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-29 16:40     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-29 16:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-29 16:53         ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-30  7:59           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30  7:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-30 15:32         ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-30 16:30           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-30 17:02             ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-30 18:43               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-30 19:37                 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-30 19:50                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-02 14:04                     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-02 17:28                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-09 17:40                         ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-12 17:41                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-12 19:25                             ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-27 14:22                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-09-27 14:39                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-27 14:51                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-09-27 14:48                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-09-30 16:59                 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-01 10:06           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-02 14:03             ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-02 16:40               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-02 16:13   ` Eugene Syromiatnikov
2017-02-02 18:12     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 05/13] task_isolation: track asynchronous interrupts Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 06/13] arch/x86: enable task isolation functionality Chris Metcalf
2016-08-30 21:46   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 07/13] arm64: factor work_pending state machine to C Chris Metcalf
2016-08-17  8:05   ` Will Deacon
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 08/13] arch/arm64: enable task isolation functionality Chris Metcalf
2016-08-26 16:25   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 09/13] arch/tile: " Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 10/13] arm, tile: turn off timer tick for oneshot_stopped state Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 11/13] task_isolation: support CONFIG_TASK_ISOLATION_ALL Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 12/13] task_isolation: add user-settable notification signal Chris Metcalf
2016-08-16 21:19 ` [PATCH v15 13/13] task_isolation self test Chris Metcalf
2016-08-17 19:37 ` [PATCH] Fix /proc/stat freezes (was [PATCH v15] "task_isolation" mode) Christoph Lameter
2016-08-20  1:42   ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-28 13:16   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-08-29 16:27 ` Ping: [PATCH v15 00/13] support "task_isolation" mode Chris Metcalf
2016-09-07 21:11   ` Francis Giraldeau
2016-09-07 21:39     ` Francis Giraldeau
2016-09-08 16:21     ` Francis Giraldeau
2016-09-12 16:01     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-12 16:14       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-12 21:15         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-13  0:05           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-13 16:00             ` Francis Giraldeau
2016-09-13  0:20       ` Francis Giraldeau
2016-09-13 16:12         ` Chris Metcalf
2016-09-27 14:49         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-09-27 14:35   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-09-30 17:07     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-11-05  4:04 ` task isolation discussion at Linux Plumbers Chris Metcalf
2016-11-05 16:05   ` Christoph Lameter
2016-11-07 16:55   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2016-11-07 18:36     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-07 19:12       ` Rik van Riel
2016-11-07 19:16         ` Will Deacon
2016-11-07 19:18           ` Rik van Riel
2016-11-11 20:54     ` Luiz Capitulino
2016-11-09  1:40   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-09 11:14     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-09 17:38       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-09 18:57         ` Will Deacon
2016-11-09 19:11           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-10  1:44         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-10  4:52           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-10  5:10             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-11 17:00             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-09 11:07   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-12-19 14:37   ` Paul E. McKenney

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