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From: Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@maine.edu>
To: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@intel.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Odzioba, Lukasz" <lukasz.odzioba@intel.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	"ak@linux.intel.com" <ak@linux.intel.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] perf/x86: fix event counter update issue
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 10:07:01 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1702231000230.15726@macbook-air> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <37D7C6CF3E00A74B8858931C1DB2F077536A9963@SHSMSX103.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017, Liang, Kan wrote:

> > So from what I understand, the issue is if we have an architecture with full-
> > width counters and we trigger a x86_perf_event_update() when bit
> > 47 is set?
> 
> No. It related to the counter width. The number of bits we can use should be
> 1 bit less than the total width. Otherwise, there will be problem.
> For big cores such as haswell, broadwell, skylake, the counter width is 48 bit.
> So we can only use 47 bits.
> For Silvermont and KNL, the counter width is only 32 bit I think. So we can only
> use 31 bits.

So on a machine with 48-bit counters I should just have a counting event
that counts to somewhere above 0x8000 0000 0001 and it should show 
problems?
Because I am unable to trigger this.

But I guess if anywhere along the line x86_perf_event_update() is run
then you start over?

I noticed your original reproducer bound the event to a core, is that 
needed to trigger this?

Can it happen on a fixed event or only a genearl purpose event?

> > So if I have a test that runs in a loop for 2^48 retired instructions (which
> > takes ~12 hours on a recent machine) and then reads the results, they
> > might be wrong?
> 
> It only needs several minutes to reproduce the issue on SLM/KNL.

Yes, but I only have machines with 48-bit counters.  So it's going to take 
256 times as long as on a machine with 40-bit counters.

I have an assembly loop that can consistently generate 2 instructions/cycle
(I'd be glad to hear suggestions for events that count faster) and on
a broadwell-ep machine it still takes at least 7 hours or so to get up
to 0x800000000000.

Vince

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-23 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-28 19:26 kan.liang
2016-11-28 19:41 ` Stephane Eranian
2016-11-28 19:59   ` Liang, Kan
2016-11-28 20:18     ` Stephane Eranian
2016-11-28 20:23       ` Liang, Kan
2016-11-29  9:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-29 14:46   ` Liang, Kan
2016-11-29 16:58     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-29 17:06       ` Liang, Kan
2016-11-29 17:17         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-29 17:20   ` Stephane Eranian
2016-11-29 17:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-29 18:11       ` Stephane Eranian
2016-11-29 18:37       ` Andi Kleen
2016-11-29 19:07       ` Liang, Kan
2016-11-29 19:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-29 20:33           ` Liang, Kan
2016-11-29 20:37             ` Stephane Eranian
2016-12-02 12:58             ` Odzioba, Lukasz
2016-12-05 10:25               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-05 11:21                 ` Odzioba, Lukasz
2017-02-22 14:49                 ` Vince Weaver
2017-02-22 15:28                   ` Liang, Kan
2017-02-22 19:18                     ` Andi Kleen
2017-02-23 15:07                     ` Vince Weaver [this message]
2017-02-23 16:14                       ` Liang, Kan
2016-11-29 19:08     ` Odzioba, Lukasz

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