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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 17/18] sched: Enable might_sleep() checks early
Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 21:12:03 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1705152047070.2264@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170515111008.1215e489@gandalf.local.home>

On Mon, 15 May 2017, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> On Sun, 14 May 2017 20:27:33 +0200
> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> 
> > might_sleep() checks are enabled after the boot process is done. That hides
> > bugs in the smp bringup and driver initialization code.
> > 
> > Enable it right when the scheduler starts working, i.e. when init task and
> > kthreadd have been created and right before the idle task enables
> > preemption.
> 
> Looking at commit b433c3d4549ae749, it appears that on very slow
> machines, there is a possibility that the init task can start running.
> Should system_state be updated before that complete() is called?

That commit is magic voodoo with exactly no effect at all.

rest_init() is called with preemption disabled and nothing can schedule
there _before_ schedule_preempt_disabled().

Both threads - init task and kthreadd - are only created and woken up. They
cannot get on the CPU simply because preemption is disabled. And this was
the case back then in 2.6.35 as well.

It does not matter at all whether the machine is slow or not. That
completion is pointless.

Peter, can you explain what the heck this patch is actually doing?

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-15 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-14 18:27 [patch 00/18] init: Enable might_sleep() and smp_processor_id() debugging early Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 01/18] init: Pin init task to boot cpu initially Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15 14:10   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 02/18] arm: Adjust system_state check Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 03/18] arm64: " Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 04/18] x86/smp: " Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15 14:17   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 05/18] metag: " Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 06/18] powerpc: " Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15  9:19   ` Michael Ellerman
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 07/18] ACPI: " Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15 10:20   ` Mark Rutland
2017-05-15 10:25     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15 14:27   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-16 18:13     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 08/18] mm: " Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15  6:18   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-05-15 14:33     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 09/18] cpufreq/pasemi: " Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15  5:24   ` Viresh Kumar
2017-05-15 14:34     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 10/18] iommu/vt-d: Adjust system_state checks Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15 14:42   ` Joerg Roedel
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 11/18] iommu/of: Adjust system_state check Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15 10:45   ` Robin Murphy
2017-05-15 14:42   ` Joerg Roedel
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 12/18] async: Adjust system_state checks Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-14 18:39   ` Arjan van de Ven
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 13/18] extable: " Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15 14:37   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 14/18] printk: " Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15 14:53   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 15/18] mm/vmscan: " Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15 14:54   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 16/18] init: Introduce SYSTEM_BOOTING_UP/SMP states Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15  9:58   ` Juergen Gross
2017-05-15 14:58   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 17/18] sched: Enable might_sleep() checks early Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15 15:10   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-15 19:12     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2017-05-16  7:14       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-16  7:33         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-16 13:14           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-14 18:27 ` [patch 18/18] sched: Enable smp_processor_id() " Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15 15:12   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-05-15 15:36     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-15 11:53 ` [patch 00/18] init: Enable might_sleep() and smp_processor_id() debugging early Mark Rutland

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