From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Quan Xu <quan.xu0@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Quan Xu <quan.xu03@gmail.com>,
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Yang Zhang <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>,
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Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com>,
Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
Tobias Klauser <tklauser@distanz.ch>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 3/6] sched/idle: Add a generic poll before enter real idle path
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 10:47:28 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1711161039050.2191@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <13a3a5c5-ec14-131f-fe6a-01700783de81@gmail.com>
On Thu, 16 Nov 2017, Quan Xu wrote:
> On 2017-11-16 16:45, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> I really have considered this factor, and try my best not to interfere with
> scheduler/idle code.
>
> if irq_timings code is ready, I can use it directly. I think irq_timings
> is not an easy task, I'd like to help as much as I can.
It's not a question whether irq_timings code is ready or not.
The infrastructure is there. I said that before and I'm happy to repeat:
All parties who need this kind of prediction should:
1) Talk to each other
2) Work together to make it usable for _ALL_ use cases
AFAICT, that never happened. Otherwise there would be either progress on
that or at least a reasonable explanation WHY it cannot be done.
Peter and myself made it entirely clear several times in the past that this
must be solved at the generic level without any magic hackery in random
places. But the only thing we've seen so far is the magic hackery coming
around in a different flavour some time after we rejected the last one.
We can play that game forever. The outcome is extremly predictable.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-16 9:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1510567565-5118-1-git-send-email-quan.xu0@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <1510567565-5118-2-git-send-email-quan.xu0@gmail.com>
2017-11-13 10:53 ` [PATCH RFC v3 1/6] x86/paravirt: Add pv_idle_ops to paravirt ops Juergen Gross
2017-11-13 11:09 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14 7:02 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 7:12 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14 8:15 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 8:22 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-14 10:23 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 7:30 ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-14 9:38 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 10:27 ` Juergen Gross
2017-11-14 11:43 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-14 11:58 ` Juergen Gross
[not found] ` <1510567565-5118-4-git-send-email-quan.xu0@gmail.com>
2017-11-15 12:11 ` [PATCH RFC v3 3/6] sched/idle: Add a generic poll before enter real idle path Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-15 22:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16 8:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-16 8:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-16 9:29 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-16 9:47 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2017-11-16 9:12 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-16 9:45 ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-11-20 7:05 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-20 18:01 ` Daniel Lezcano
2017-11-16 9:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 11:23 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-17 11:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 12:21 ` Quan Xu
2017-11-15 21:31 ` [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 0/6] x86/idle: add halt poll support Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-11-20 7:18 ` Quan Xu
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