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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] LDT improvements
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 18:23:39 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1712071814200.1835@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVrQRUn6PoBBGSD8+-wRrWp3mQtKY1sYnCRFyDBte5usA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 7 Dec 2017, Andy Lutomirski wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:43 AM, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 11:22:21PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> I think I like this approach.  I also think it might be nice to move the
> >> whole cpu_entry_area into this new pgd range so that we can stop mucking
> >> around with the fixmap.
> >
> > Yeah, and also, I don't like the idea of sacrificing a whole PGD
> > only for the LDT crap which is optional, even. Frankly - and this
> > is just me - I'd make CONFIG_KERNEL_PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION xor
> > CONFIG_MODIFY_LDT_SYSCALL and don't give a rat's *ss about the LDT.
> 
> The PGD sacrifice doesn't bother me.  Putting a writable LDT map at a
> constant address does bother me.  We could probably get away with RO
> if we trapped and handled the nasty faults, but that could be very
> problematic.

Where is the problem? You can map it RO into user space with the USER bit
cleared. The kernel knows how to access the real stuff.

> The version here:
> 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/luto/linux.git/commit/?h=x86/pti&id=a74d1009ac72a1f04ec5bcd338a4bdbe170ab776
> 
> actually seems to work.

The approach I've taken is to create a VMA and map it into user space with
the USER bit cleared. A little bit more effort code wise, but that avoids
all the page table muck and keeps it straight attached to the process.

Will post once in a bit.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-07 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-07  7:22 Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-07 12:43 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-12-07 17:08   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-07 17:23     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2017-12-07 18:21       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-08  7:34         ` Ingo Molnar
2017-12-08  9:34           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-08  9:44             ` Ingo Molnar
2017-12-08  9:55               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-08 11:31                 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-12-08 16:38                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-08 17:37                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-12-08 17:42                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-08 17:48                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-08 13:20             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-08 13:55               ` David Laight
2017-12-08 14:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-08 16:20                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-08 16:33                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-08 16:46                   ` David Laight
2017-12-08 16:47                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-12-08 17:29                       ` David Laight

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