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From: Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>
To: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dan Carpenter <error27@gmail.com>,
	Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kernel: sys.c: Avoid copying possible padding bytes in copy_to_user
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 06:47:55 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1910270644590.3186@hadrien> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dfa331c00881d61c8ee51577a082d8bebd61805c.camel@perches.com>



On Sat, 26 Oct 2019, Joe Perches wrote:

> Initialization is not guaranteed to zero padding bytes so
> use an explicit memset instead to avoid leaking any kernel
> content in any possible padding bytes.

Here is an extract of an email that I sent to Kees at one point that left
me unsure about what should be done about these situations:

From Kees:

    The only way to correctly handle this is:

    memset(&instance, 0, sizeof(instance));
    instance.one = 1;

From me:

Actually, this document:

https://wiki.sei.cmu.edu/confluence/display/c/DCL39-C.+Avoid+information+leakage+when+passing+a+structure+across+a+trust+boundary

says that memset is a "noncompliant solution".  They suggest declaring the
structure as packed, as well as some other more unpleasant solutions.
Their point is that 1 will be sitting in a register, and the assignment at
least might copy the upper bytes of the register into the padding space.

-------------------------

Is the memset solution nevertheless what is always wanted in the kernel
when there is padding?

thanks,
julia

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-27  5:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-26 19:46 Joe Perches
2019-10-27  5:47 ` Julia Lawall [this message]
2019-10-27 22:47   ` Joe Perches
2019-10-28  7:30     ` Dan Carpenter
2019-10-28 18:58     ` Kees Cook
2019-10-28  7:18 ` Dan Carpenter
2019-10-28  8:08   ` Joe Perches

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