From: Sage Weil <sweil@redhat.com>
To: Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Gregory Farnum <gfarnum@redhat.com>,
Luis Henriques <lhenriques@suse.com>,
"Yan, Zheng" <zyan@redhat.com>,
Ceph Development <ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] ceph: safely use 'copy-from' Op on Octopus OSDs
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 14:17:44 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1911141416040.17979@piezo.novalocal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOi1vP9XaeJdqV-jMP3BM=mjHKqJW8-ynAjCi0xcDD3DtL94KQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 14 Nov 2019, Ilya Dryomov wrote:
> > > I'm just getting caught up on the discussion here, but why was it
> > > decided to do it this way instead of just adding a new OSD
> > > "copy-from-no-truncseq" operation? Once you tried it once and an OSD
> > > didn't support it, you could just give up on using it any longer? That
> > > seems a lot simpler than trying to monkey with feature bits.
> >
> > I don't remember the original discussion either, but in retrospect that
> > does seem much simpler--especially since hte client is conditioning
> > sending this based on the the require_osd_release. It seems like passing
> > a flag to the copy-from op would be more reasonable instead of conditional
> > feature-based behavior.
>
> Yeah, I suggested adding require_osd_release to the client portion just
> because we are running into it more and more: Objecter relies on it for
> RESEND_ON_SPLIT for example. It needs to be accessible so that patches
> like that can be carried over to the kernel client without workarounds.
>
> copy-from in its existing form is another example. AFAIU the problem
> is that copy-from op doesn't reject unknown flags. Luis added a flag
> in https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/25374, but it is simply ignored on
> nautilus and older releases, potentially leading to data corruption.
>
> Adding a new op that would be an alias for CEPH_OSD_OP_COPY_FROM with
> CEPH_OSD_COPY_FROM_FLAG_TRUNCATE_SEQ like Jeff is suggesting, or a new
> copy-from2 op that would behave just like copy-from, but reject unknown
> flags to avoid similar compatibility issues in the future is probably
> the best thing we can do from the client perspective.
Yeah, I think copy-from2 is the best path. I think that means we should
revert what we merged to ceph.git a few weeks back, Luis! Sorry we didn't
put all the pieces together before...
sage
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-14 14:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-14 10:57 Luis Henriques
2019-11-14 10:57 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/4] ceph: add support for TYPE_MSGR2 address decode Luis Henriques
2019-11-14 12:18 ` Jeff Layton
2019-11-14 10:57 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] ceph: get the require_osd_release field from the osdmap Luis Henriques
2019-11-14 13:00 ` Jeff Layton
2019-11-14 10:57 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] ceph: add require_osd_release field to osdmap debugfs Luis Henriques
2019-11-14 10:57 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] ceph: add support for sending truncate_{seq,size} in 'copy-from' Op Luis Henriques
2019-11-14 13:15 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] ceph: safely use 'copy-from' Op on Octopus OSDs Jeff Layton
2019-11-14 13:28 ` Sage Weil
2019-11-14 14:13 ` Ilya Dryomov
2019-11-14 14:17 ` Sage Weil [this message]
2019-11-14 15:24 ` Luis Henriques
2019-11-14 15:47 ` Ilya Dryomov
2019-11-14 18:28 ` Gregory Farnum
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